Denny is correct.

Per PWA

be required to check his schedule via DBMS or VRU:
1) after block-in of the last flight segment of his rotation prior to his release (see
Section 12 G. 13. - 14.), and
2) no later than 0200 base time on his first on-call day following a non-fly day, so as
to be able to acknowledge:
a) any assignment no later than three hours before a scheduled report of the
rotation or start of a short call period, or
b) the start of a rest period or Crew Scheduling assigned X-day. (see
Section 12 N. 2. Note)
Exception one: If such last non-fly day ends at a time other than 2400, the pilot
will check his schedule no later than two hours after the end of such non-fly day.
Exception two: For purposes of Section 23 S 1. d. 2) a non-fly day will not
include a day on which the pilot:
a) is on vacation.
b) performs flying for the Company.
c) is scheduled to perform flying for the Company.
d) participates in training, other than distributed training (including travel
days).
e) performs an SLI duty period (including a flex day).
f) is on Company business.
g) is removed from his scheduled rotation for the convenience of the Company

AND

5. A long call pilot:
a. must be available for contact by Crew Scheduling at any time while on-call.
b. must be able to report for an assigned rotation which reports no earlier than 12 hours
from the first attempted contact by Crew Scheduling.
23-39
Section 23 - Scheduling

c. must be able to report for a rotation within 12 hours of first attempted contact for
conversion to short call.
d. can be converted to short call no earlier than ten hours from the first attempted
contact by Crew Scheduling and will be released from duty during the ten hours
immediately preceding the start of his short call period.
e. will be notified of his assignment to open time under Section 23 N. or O. by one of
the following two methods:
1) telephone contact from Crew Scheduling.
2) electronic placement of a rotation or conversion to short call that is placed on his
schedule prior to:
a) his release from a rotation, or
b) nine hours before the end of his last non-fly day (other than a vacation day)
before an on-call day.
f. will not be required to remain available for contact in the 12 hours prior to the
scheduled report of an assigned rotation.

13. In order to determine what, if any, assignment has been placed on his schedule for the
period following his release, a reserve pilot is required to check and acknowledge his
schedule via DBMS/VRU after completion of the last flight segment of a rotation and
prior to release. At that time, his schedule may show an assignment:
a. of a rotation with a report that is at least 12 hours after his release.
b. to short call duty beginning no earlier than 10 hours after his release. (see
Section 23 S. 9. b. Exception

In effect, check and check often just do a screen shot and save it in a pdf file after 1500 base time.

Also they have to give you at least 10 hrs when the convert you to SC with a report no earlier than 12 hrs from notification or 2 hrs from the start of the SC window. This is a min.
reasonable time is not waived with this understanding.

c. must be able to report for a rotation within 12 hours of first attempted contact for
conversion to short call.
d. can be converted to short call no earlier than ten hours from the first attempted
contact by Crew Scheduling and will be released from duty during the ten hours
immediately preceding the start of his short call period.

Just so you see it!!
PWA SEC 23 5 A-D

Well that's what is weird. I have already been converted, but still show Jan training/Feb conv but some MSP 320 B reinstatement coming off the DC9 have dashes in both columns. Guess I'm reading into it too much. :p

You're off the list. Don't call us. We'll call you.


By the way, just as a courtesy to scheduling and for less potential headache for yourself: if you are getting a commute flight that gets you in after the beginning of the short call window, I would give them as heads up that you'll be in the air when the window opens up, but will be in position for an immediate report at xxxx.

Well my base is DTW, so it's in the same time zone as ATL. That makes it easy. I live in STL so we are 1 hour behind ATL & DTW. I think I've got it. :p

I am assuming they will be in training or have it assigned then.

Whoops! Thought you were a mempho guy. Super is always on my mind, I guess....

Oh 80 we can take that statement and run with it!

Super-80......
:D

I will stop right there.

But if there is a trip, say 10:30 from now and their choice is a proffer that pays premium pay ~ or ~ a short call with less than two hours that costs them nothing ... they seem inclined to choose what's behind door #2 and hope for the best.

'ahem, ask me how I know this ... they have seemed to back off the shenanigans for the last 60 days. Maybe our complaining on the boards actually does get read.

Well Bar, that's when you say "I'll do my best but it looks like about 2 hours from now is the best show time I'm going to be able to make." CS can say nothing to you about this. Now if you want to make an earlier sign in for what ever reason......................thats up to you.:)

Denny