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johnso29 02-13-2010 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 763432)
Not if the 2010 Flight Plan stays unchanged.


Meaning if it stays unchanged from today then they will flat out have to hire, yes?:D

johnso29 02-13-2010 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 763441)
So AA And BA get DOT approval and only have to give up 3 Heathrow slots. How can they give out something like that a week after telling US Air and Delta to give up significantly more in a swap?

Knowing our government, they probably made them give a slot each to JB, SWA, and AT.:rolleyes:

BigGuns 02-13-2010 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 763407)
Something like that. They have also recieved a mandate from delta to make the interview exactly the same as the delta interview. They are bringing in a consulting firm to make sure it conforms.

So why doesn't Delta do the hiring? This flow thu is jacked up. Delts should hire delta pilots.

buzzpat 02-13-2010 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 763460)
Knowing our government, they probably made them give a slot each to JB, SWA, and AT.:rolleyes:

The bottom line is that it all depends on whose lobbyists are in the pockets of the administration. DC inside baseball...and it looks like our team doesn't have enough fire power.

keenster 02-13-2010 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 762917)
Commuting is not a choice for some. Peoples families and their spouses jobs do not move like management moves aircraft and doles out displacements. Yanking the kids out of school and finding a new job for the wife is not easily done.

I agree. I am tired of the genersl statements of only a few commute out of necessity. How many bases have closed over the years. Just on the last AE JFK 777 closing, DTW 777 opening CVG767ER going away SLC 320 OPENING MSP MD88 opening ATL 765 downsized etc. So I guess the pilots have caused all this should either move to base or down bid to avoid commuting, I say bull crap!!!! And ther are going to be more base changes in the future. We need a good comuting policy bottom line!!!!
Don't worry it will happen because they are creating a commuting nightmare and too many folks will not make it to work. Look out reserves you are going to be flying your tails off.:D

Sink r8 02-13-2010 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 763465)
The bottom line is that it all depends on whose lobbyists are in the pockets of the administration. DC inside baseball...and it looks like our team doesn't have enough fire power.

As a strange coincidence, AMR hired former Secretary of Transportation explaining to JAL that ATI could not be obtained. Said lobbyist, no doubt, helped the trans-Atlantic ATI through for oneworld.

And if I was super-cynical, I'd say he might have had a few notions about our LGA-DCA slot swap to share with DOT. Assuming he could get past the JetBlue people at the door.

I hope we start playing politics a little better.

I understand the NW team was known for excellent defensive politcs, and fending off competition. I'd like to see some of that defense right now.

RiddleEagle18 02-13-2010 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 763463)
So why doesn't Delta do the hiring? This flow thu is jacked up. Delts should hire delta pilots.

I agree. I wish there was a way to get the a/c on mainline property. Compass doesnt do anything for itself. Delta does most of our HR and payroll functions. We aren't paid a fee for departure, we are simply given a budget to operate for the year from delta. Why not just have delta do the hiring for compass too.

keenster 02-13-2010 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 763023)
I think the first major airline that announces they'll no longer use subcontractors (regional carriers) to farm out feed under shady contracts ... and publicizes it in a huge fancy campaign blitz will be a big winner in this industry.

tag line ... "At XYZ Airlines, we don't believe in farming out your safety to the subcontractor with the lowest bid, who pays the cheapest wages, and hires the least qualified aircrew and mechanics. Instead, we've taken a new approach. We've decided to bring all of the flying back in house under our control, applying the same stringent rules and requirements for any XYZ flight. blah blah blah

I think it would cause the other majors to react accordingly.

Am I nuts?

Right on brother. I have posted many times thatyou are only as good as your weakest link and for us it is our contract carriers. I have personal friends that fly Airtran because of the service of DAL contract carriers plus they don't like the 50 seat jet. I hate the fact that I get bombarded by customers about the crappy service of our contract carriers.Get it back in our house so we can control it and give the customer the service tey deserve. SCOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAL330drvr 02-13-2010 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 763441)
So AA And BA get DOT approval and only have to give up 3 Heathrow slots. How can they give out something like that a week after telling US Air and Delta to give up significantly more in a swap?

A little connection with the White House helps...
How many people does AMR employ in the ORD area?

TenYearsGone 02-13-2010 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by keenster (Post 763472)
Right on brother. I have posted many times thatyou are only as good as your weakest link and for us it is our contract carriers. I have personal friends that fly Airtran because of the service of DAL contract carriers plus they don't like the 50 seat jet. I hate the fact that I get bombarded by customers about the crappy service of our contract carriers.Get it back in our house so we can control it and give the customer the service tey deserve. SCOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regional Airlines are just the "back door" way of implementing a "B" or "C" scale.

Shame on the UNIONs for not picking up on this in the early years and nipping it in the bud. A mainline carrier should be able to hire their own pilots and fly their own airplanes (unless they want to dilute their product). With regional airlines competing for contracts and "hungry" pilots hunting for flight-time and experience, unethical Regional airlines will do anything to lower their costs to capture the contract.

In an economic standpoint, CASM drops with MORE seats on an aircraft; hence it is more economical to fly larger aircraft on a specific route. The only reason a CRJ900 is flying ORD to LGA is because the lower crew wages allow it to be barely economical.. (as oil rises again, bigger airplanes will come into play)

TYG


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