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80ktsClamp 03-06-2010 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 774536)
I'm flying 50-60 hours/month. Just enough to keep me either working or on short call without coming close to guarantee. I really wish we'd hire and put pilots more junior to me on the bus. Reserve is starting to get old.


You've got a job and haven't been furloughed. Let's look at it that way...

Wanna hold a line because you're commuting? Bid to a where you'd be more senior.

I've been on rsv for 3 years because I've been on the most senior plane I could hold. No complaints here.

hockeypilot44 03-06-2010 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 774573)
aside from the obvious gripes about reserve, what gets me worked up is the fact that they are masters at making sure you fly just under 70 hrs a month. If thats the way they want it fine, but give me at least give me two more days off per month! If they aint gonna fly me over 70, then they don't need me for 18 days on call.

At least make the reserve work rules match the line holders' work rules. Also change it so we all get a 5:15 hour minimum for any duty day whether we fly or not. At NWA as a domestic pilot, I never did a single duty day with just a deadhead. I'm guessing this is because it was treated the same as a flying day in the contract. At Delta this is fairly common practice. There was a 1 day pattern(NWA way) or rotation(Delta way) or trip(other airline way) on the daily trip coverage board that paid reserve 2:18 and a lineholder 5:15. Of course there was a note on the bottom to assign it only to a reserve pilot. Go figure.

reddog25 03-06-2010 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by StormChaser (Post 774314)
I'll give that a try. Thanks for the info!

DAL should provide the ride and it's probably on the charter packet. I wouldn't bust my tail to get over there. If it's a late departure from the FBO maybe they'll stop combining scheduled flying with charter flying.:cool:

johnso29 03-06-2010 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 774589)
DAL should provide the ride and it's probably on the charter packet. I wouldn't bust my tail to get over there. If it's a late departure from the FBO maybe they'll stop combining scheduled flying with charter flying.:cool:

I agree. It just does not work well, & makes for some very tiring trips. I ran into a 320 crew in CLT a few months ago. They had ferried into CLT for a 0530 arrival only to DH to DTW at 1630 & then fly to SAN! Ugh. Talk about no sleep.

Also, with delayed charters it really messes up the revenue flights that we are to work.

reddog25 03-06-2010 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 774592)
I agree. It just does not work well, & makes for some very tiring trips. I ran into a 320 crew in CLT a few months ago. They had ferried into CLT for a 0530 arrival only to DH to DTW at 1630 & then fly to SAN! Ugh. Talk about no sleep.

Also, with delayed charters it really messes up the revenue flights that we are to work.

True Dat! And I've rarely seen an NBA departure after a game go on time. But that's why they have reserves I guess.

Denny Crane 03-06-2010 05:22 PM

Take a cab and expense it. Simple as that.

Denny

DFW Refugee 03-06-2010 05:33 PM

T:

Thanks for the link and the laugh!

GySgt Campos...34-82 "On your face..MOVE!"

forgot to bid 03-06-2010 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 774582)
You've got a job and haven't been furloughed. Let's look at it that way...

Wanna hold a line because you're commuting? Bid to a where you'd be more senior.

I've been on rsv for 3 years because I've been on the most senior plane I could hold. No complaints here.

No complaints here either. I bid down to reserve, or used to before the last AE, and liked it. When I wanted to hold a line and could swap all the trips from fri-mon to all weekends off, I liked holding a line.

The reserve system here is fine and sure they fly everyone to 69.5 hours but thats the contract. Thats how the system works when its not a seniority based system with junior pilots flying every day for 90 hours and senior reserve pilots flying near 0.

RCD73 03-06-2010 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 774614)
No complaints here either. I bid down to reserve, or used to before the last AE, and liked it. When I wanted to hold a line and could swap all the trips from fri-mon to all weekends off, I liked holding a line.

The reserve system here is fine and sure they fly everyone to 69.5 hours but thats the contract. Thats how the system works when its not a seniority based system with junior pilots flying every day for 90 hours and senior reserve pilots flying near 0.


I've was watching a T.V. show on Georgia prison inmates. You'd both do well there. Lipstick anybody ..... ?

I guess if you haven't got the pay or the conditions. At least you have your hat.

Thankfully you are the vocal minority.

80ktsClamp 03-06-2010 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by RCD73 (Post 774618)
I've was watching a T.V. show on Georgia prison inmates. You'd both do well there. Lipstick anybody ..... ?

I guess if you haven't got the pay or the conditions. At least you have your hat.

Thankfully you are the vocal minority.

Ahhh.. the usual arrogance. Must feel good to be all puffed up and awesome.

I was giving him crap #1 because thats most of what he does on here, and #2, he's senior enough to fly a different airplane and have a choice in what he flies, but chooses to be on reserve on a larger plane and complain.

Got it?

The reserve rules need improvement... doesn't mean I'm going to whine incessantly like I've got sand stuck all where you've obviously got more than enough.


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