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acl65pilot 03-06-2010 12:41 PM

As for SC.
24 hr SC generally means one day on SC, end it the next day, and then the ability to get it the next.

That said, most ATL7ERB guys are averaging about two a month this winter. (That will change shortly)

forgot to bid 03-06-2010 01:00 PM

I've gotten a few 2 hours to go time and a "do the best you can." I am 1:30 from home to crew room, 30 minutes of which is about right for the employee buses, never more than 30 but very often the full 30 minutes.


Fokker is bringing back the 100 seat Fokker 100 as a 100NG.

johnso29 03-06-2010 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 774458)
Is scheduling allowed to assign back-to-back short-call days? Do they give early releases from short-call on a day before an X-day?

Our long-call/short-call system just hosed me. There are a lot of pilots with lower raw scores than me sitting long-call that haven't done a short-call this month. I've now been assigned for 2 short-calls and I've flown a 2-day trip outside my short-call periods. A late short-call on my last day is what really ****es me off after working 9 of the last 10 days. I can't find anything about early releases from short-call in the contract. I know the answer to my first question, but I'm still hoping the answer is no.

The only limitation on assigning SC is 6 a month max. You could get 6 days in a row of SC. In regards to being released, we aren't even allowed to ask until 2 hours prior to the END of our SC. Your situation stinks, & it is a result of us being flat out UNDERSTAFFED on the 320. Either that, or we have the highest amount of sick calls in the airline.

From today until the end if the month there are 4 days where we are above the min required reserves. Every other day we are UNDER. We need bodies.

hockeypilot44 03-06-2010 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 774533)
The only limitation on assigning SC is 6 a month max. You could get 6 days in a row of SC. In regards to being released, we aren't even allowed to ask until 2 hours prior to the END of our SC. Your situation stinks, & it is a result of us being flat out UNDERSTAFFED on the 320. Either that, or we have the highest amount of sick calls in the airline.

From today until the end if the month there are 4 days where we are above the min required reserves. Every other day we are UNDER. We need bodies.

I'm flying 50-60 hours/month. Just enough to keep me either working or on short call without coming close to guarantee. I really wish we'd hire and put pilots more junior to me on the bus. Reserve is starting to get old.

NuGuy 03-06-2010 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 774514)
I've gotten a few 2 hours to go time and a "do the best you can." I am 1:30 from home to crew room, 30 minutes of which is about right for the employee buses, never more than 30 but very often the full 30 minutes.

I sat very litter reserve at NWA, but when they really needed you ASAP, they'd tell you to park "in the ramp" (meaning the closest pax parking), and they'd reimburse you.

I'm not sure in ATL that would do any good.

Nu

DAL73n 03-06-2010 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 773794)
If you are saying that our pay is so low now that it takes 160hrs of it a month to live comfortably, you may need to look at some lifestyle changes.:)

I know what you are trying to say, but it seems a little bit extreme to say that people couldn't live off of 80 hrs of our current rates with a modest raise. The upward progression that an improvement in work rules would create would allow you to make as much as you do now or more without spending as many days away from home. Not much different for reserves like yourself who aren't flying very many days, but for those of us that fly a regular line it would be an increase in Q of L. (At least for those of us who like to be with our families.)

Where is everyone coming with 80 hours as a "normal" month. Reserve Guarantee is only 70 hours. Even if you average 5 hours credit/day that's 16 days of work per month. A decent wage at 70 hours (in case you or I gets stuck back on reserve) is what we should have. By the way, 70 hours/month x 12 months is only 840 credit hours/year and that means less than $100K/year for the average FO. by the time you take out ALPA dues (2%), FICA (7.65%), Federal Taxes (15-20%), health insurance, 401K (at least 10%), etc. your take home pay is less than $5K/month. That's not much money to live on especially if you're a 10 year FO - we should be doing a LOT better than that.

acl65pilot 03-06-2010 03:33 PM

DAL73;
The point of using is 80 is to allow line holders to pick up a few extra hrs and be happy with that cap.
I still beleive that there should be some added benefit for a guy to fly a line over a reserve line. Like picking up time.

No one is arguing that it should be better. It was to add points to the baseline that Sailingfun was making.

Superdad 03-06-2010 04:07 PM

aside from the obvious gripes about reserve, what gets me worked up is the fact that they are masters at making sure you fly just under 70 hrs a month. If thats the way they want it fine, but give me at least give me two more days off per month! If they aint gonna fly me over 70, then they don't need me for 18 days on call.

acl65pilot 03-06-2010 04:15 PM

Superdad;
Simple, it is contractual. Direct that gripe to the LEC reps.

Superdad 03-06-2010 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 774578)
Superdad;
Simple, it is contractual. Direct that gripe to the LEC reps.


I understand what contractual means, but if we are on the subject of improvement ideas.............


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