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Heyas,
More to the point is that the whole LOA19/JPWA needs to be put in the same context as SOC. The whole merger agreement was essentially the PMDal PWA. Moak and company chose the same course that the company did (some surprise, there), and that was "adopt and go", choosing the path that would take us to our version of SOC the fastest (AKA the JPWA). There was no attempt to "cherry pick" anything, and only in the case of "show stoppers" was there any real heed given to the NWA side. Alot has been made about how much the JPWA passed at NWA versus DAL. Since the JPWA was essentially the DAL contract, I would consider the vote on the DAL side a referendum on what the fDAL guys thought of their contract, which, by the look of the result, was not very highly. So let's put that in context of the 2012 negotiation. Do we simply go with "more of the same", or do we change our course and start to really consider "best practices"? Nu |
Nu
Hey Nu,
+1.......Nu for NC Chairman.................:eek: |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 775073)
At DL you're never forced to work on your day off (unless it's the extremely rare situation of getting a regular trip into your x-days...). It's only offered.
Denny |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 775069)
Only on Planet Delta would being junior manned be considered as "spreading the wealth". More like "getting the shaft".
I have no desire to be forced to work on my day off. Another step backward from the NWA PWA. Nu So IA's work as a sort of GS in reverse seniority order, and you just take a peek as the dish comes by yor table, and you decide if you want a taste. The computer tells your answering machine you've been "assigned" one of 4 or 5 trips (if it's busy enough), you look them up, and you decide if you want to call back. It got to the point where senior guys were upset that IA's start at the bottom, not the top. Simple enough? |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 775086)
Technically I do not think you are correct in saying an IA/IAWC is only a pro-offer of the trip. It IS your trip unless you can come up with a valid reason why you will not be legal or cannot make the sign in. When Scheduling Calls lists some of the valid reasons that could be used such as having consumed alcohol, not adequately rested, lack of childcare etc. If necessary call your CP.
but, I think most guys are smart enough avoid a IA if they want to. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 775086)
Technically I do not think you are correct in saying an IA/IAWC is only a pro-offer of the trip. It IS your trip unless you can come up with a valid reason why you will not be legal or cannot make the sign in. When Scheduling Calls lists some of the valid reasons that could be used such as having consumed alcohol, not adequately rested, lack of childcare etc. If necessary call your CP.
Denny That is correct before they started using the automated system. Now it's up to you to call back. |
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 775089)
Sure, if you (a) answer the phone (b) say, "yes, this is him/her" when they ask for you and (c) can't come up with an excuse when they give you the trip...
but, I think most guys are smart enough avoid a IA if they want to. Denny |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 775077)
Heyas,
More to the point is that the whole LOA19/JPWA needs to be put in the same context as SOC. The whole merger agreement was essentially the PMDal PWA. Moak and company chose the same course that the company did (some surprise, there), and that was "adopt and go", choosing the path that would take us to our version of SOC the fastest (AKA the JPWA). There was no attempt to "cherry pick" anything, and only in the case of "show stoppers" was there any real heed given to the NWA side. Alot has been made about how much the JPWA passed at NWA versus DAL. Since the JPWA was essentially the DAL contract, I would consider the vote on the DAL side a referendum on what the fDAL guys thought of their contract, which, by the look of the result, was not very highly. So let's put that in context of the 2012 negotiation. Do we simply go with "more of the same", or do we change our course and start to really consider "best practices"? Nu As far as the difference in voting numbers on the JCBA/LOA 19, I think most guys here saw it as voting on (drum roll) ...the JCBA/LOA 19. I.e. it was a direct reflection of how excited we were about the price we obtained for the merger vs. the worth of the merger (to us) and the prospect of an arbitrated SLI. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 775090)
That is correct before they started using the automated system. Now it's up to you to call back.
Denny |
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