I thought we had this on a few birds already.

I had heard that it would more or less be a wash for mainline.... the regionals however.....

An interesting question would be how this will impact the non-wholly owneds. Assuming a Fee-for-Departure arrangement, that could severely impact the bottom line at these companies. Most regionals have no trip/duty rigs but this in essence would create that. At companies that fly short haul trips mostly this could require a huge amount of staffing. Could they absorb that cost if it doesn't get transferred to the mainline partner. I don't have the ASA's of the regionals available but most of the time they don't have the ability to pass those costs up to the mothership. One reason why ASA, Pinnacle and others have been stuck in negotiations for years. The turnip is so dry there's no other places to cut costs to absorb that increase.

trust me, if the proposed duty rigs that ALPA put forth are those adopted, we may need 400 more pilots. ASA otoh would need a ton.
Think of the regional airlines going to our hours of service rules.

Now with a few other things, we could see a need for the numbers you indicate but not for what the proposed rigs would be. If it added that many pilots I would be floored. We have a max of 13 hrs of sked duty and the limit would be 12.
Keep in mind if the nine hr flight time rule comes out we are looking at all of the dinner and a movie Caribbean day lines going to two an crews. (with a pwa change of course)

Dal, you hit the nail on the head. FFD and DCI would be a major money loser. Bigger jets would be the way to go.

We have a poor man's version of it. From what I was told it will be like the 777 CPDLC. (much better) :D

I have heard some numbers over the next two years and if half true, you might hold a line! : D

Nah. I'm a path of least resistance sort of dude.

As are almost ALL of my brothers and sisters in JFK, I ASSURE you if there were a time saving device on the ER...we would know about it.

I'll be happy to hold the baby bus. A line would be nice too though. :D

Paper? Really....... no ****? Not enough paper in the cockpit?

First off, DAL probably clears a few acres of rain forest every year with just the NOTAMS.

Secondly, we should all - both North and South, look at the bright side - a few months after the first combined bid and guys are *****ing about cockpit amenities- damm this merger is going smooth from a pilots point of view.

Does anyone think the guys at USAIR are *****ing about lack of paper in the cockpit?

Finally for all of us Southerners - lets just remember the North guys have a lot more change to deal with then we do. Hey North guys - DAL does not have the market cornered on crappy procedures, policies, and protocols - the world is full of it.

Not enough paper in the cockpit - Classic! :)

Scoop