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Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 800373)

Nope, not legos. Some other little plastic toys. I think the Fisher Price people that we all had when we were crapping our diapers.

Just got back from day 1 of recurrent....no new news. Didn't even have any old rumors to share.

PS....in honor of Earth Day I'm putting all my empty beer bottles in the recycling bin.

So new news? Is that news about New? I heard some news about New.

When Bruce Banner gets mad he turns into the Hulk. When the Hulk gets mad, he turns into New.

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 800374)

So, if you advise scheduling that you will be unavailable because you are traveling in, your short call duty period is still from the original time.

Example to make sure:

Notified of short call from 1000-2200.

You tell scheduling that you will be traveling in (ie. 1200 is when you will be there.)

You duty period for FAR purposes still started at 1000.

Right?

My understanding is that is right, your SC started at 1000, not 1200. I guess if someone wants to call scheduling they should be able to tell us.

It says: Inform Crew Scheduling if traveling to base to stand short call that contact may not be possible for the

fi rst 2 hours. Not, tell us your commuting in and we'll move your SC back 2 hours. I think this is strictly common sense rule to have, we give you 2 hours to get to the airport and you're saying fine, I'll be at the airport ready to go if you need me, you don't need to call me or get upset if I don't answer on first contact.

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 800377)

As I understand the story, Whitlow is a guy who caused a BIG ruckus.

Back in the bad old days...
You can read about the whole thing here:
FindLaw | Cases and Codes

While ALPA intervened on the appeal to the Circuit Court, it's well worth noting that it was the APA who got off the pot and got us off 24 reserve periods. Kudos to them.

Nu

thanks for the recap Nu.

....And didn't the APA really start to get moving in that direction in response to Little Rock?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 800383)

So new news? Is that news about New? I heard some news about New.

When Bruce Banner gets mad he turns into the Hulk. When the Hulk gets mad, he turns into New.

My understanding is that is right, your SC started at 1000, not 1200. I guess if someone wants to call scheduling they should be able to tell us.

It says: Inform Crew Scheduling if traveling to base to stand short call that contact may not be possible for the

fi rst 2 hours. Not, tell us your commuting in and we'll move your SC back 2 hours.

Thanks Ftb. I thought the Hulk was always mad.

New NEVER gets mad. (Ok, rarely.) :D

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 800363)

Super, they are not mixing longevity methods. Your longevity remains the same its just the DAL payroll system is different. 1st of the month check is an advance on last months flying. 15th is the flight pay from the previous month. That's why you don't see changes right away. Your final paycheck should come the month after you retire so it all comes out in the wash. Now I'm only making an uneducated guess as to your issue. I may be totally wrong.

I believe we're on different discussions here. My point is that under the NWA way you got your pay bump once the first guy in your newhire class finished OE. In my case that date was on the 8th. Under the NWA way that pay bump would begin on the 1st of that month since the individual finished oe before the 15th. Now since DAL isnt giving us our longevity bumps at DOH like you guys and instead keeping us under the NWA way then i should get my bump on the 1st of said month that guy finishes OE. Some PMNWA types are concerned because they think DAL is giving the pay bumps on the date that that individual finishes OE instead of following the NWA procedure of beginning it on the first. Hence we'd get 2nd year for 8 days and then 3rd year for the remainder which is wrong. IF we're not getting the 3rd year bump on anything but the first then it WILL be an issue.

What you're saying is correct though, in that its a month lagging. The point is that for us pmnwa guys, we should get pay bumps starting on the 1st of the month if the guy in our class finished OE prior to the 15th.

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Originally Posted by dragon (Post 800368)

Spoke to planning today and it seems there will be 744 NYC on the bid. What type of impact would that have? I expected to see it in ATL at some point but NY, I know there are routes that they added just wondering what folks will bid it. The south guys are out (unless there are insufficient bidders) but since this is a new category it would open the plane up to any North guys that can hold it.

NYC was the "original" 744 base when NW was the launch customer for Boeing.

This of course begs the question. Are the fNW recall rights still valid? :rolleyes:

Just kidding.

As part of the 1993 concessions, NWA MEC allowed the entire NYC 744 base to be moved without any bids or displacements. There will be lots of DALN folks bidding NYC744.

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Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 800354)

Kinda puts in perspective that we are all wrong with respect to duty and SC, doesn't it? These rules are so complicated that we can't get violated because there is as many interpreations (spelling ???) as there is people reading them. Time for a change?

These are for Duty, not SC, and not for the area that is not duty but not rest wrt SC.

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Originally Posted by dragon (Post 800368)

That was talked about due to all of the cities in NYC that will be on it. Glad they are actually going to do it. It will keep the ER junior, but kill a lot of DH time for the 744 guys.

Along this line of thinking, I would "suspect" that other moves may be made as well. Them committing to the 744 NYC base means that marketing actually gave them a long term commitment to the 744 doing the flying there.

Nu, Yep, Whitlow was Deputy Chief Counsel. Lawyers:D

So from where are the removing 744 time to send it to NYC?

Satch, go look and see where they are based! :D