Quick question for you contract gurus. If you are on SC at 0630 what time can you have a beer at night and be safe? I always thought it was duty and if I haven't been called by..say..1630..I was good to go. According to some of you, you are saying that they can call at 1800 and give me a trip?

retirees = good news


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They can release you from SC 2 hours prior. I would always call and get released early. Just call them at 1630 and get released back to long call.

Is there a way to know who the LCP's are on a specific category?

DOT: No airline to be exempt from new tarmac delay rule

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced Thursday that the Department of Transportation has rejected all requests for temporary exemptions to the new tarmac delay rule.

The new rule, which aims to prevent airlines from keeping passengers waiting more than three hours on airport tarmacs, goes into effect April 29. Violations could result in fines costing airlines up to $27,500 per passenger.

Five airlines -- JetBlue, Delta Air Lines, American Airlines, Continental Airlines and US Airways -- have requested temporary exemptions since the rule's December 2009 announcement citing construction at New York's JFK Airport. The airport's main runway is closed and set to reopen July 1.

"Passengers on flights delayed on the tarmac have a right to know they will not be held aboard a plane indefinitely," LaHood said in a statement, according to The Associated Press. "This is an important consumer protection, and we believe it should take effect as planned."

The rule requires airlines to provide passengers with working toilets during delays and food and drinking water after two hours.

"Exceptions are allowed only for safety or security reasons or if air traffic control advises the flight's captain that returning to the terminal would disrupt airport operations," AP writes. "The carriers said that without the requested exemptions large numbers of flights will have to be canceled at the New York-area airports, causing even greater inconvenience for passengers."

The DOT cited the fact that airlines could reroute or reschedule flights at JFK, allowing the airport's other three runways to absorb the extra traffic, as one reason the exemption requests were turned down, the DOT said in a statement. The department added that it will look at each non-compliance case individually, and it will take into account the impact of the JFK situation when deciding to issue fines.

The airlines seeking exemption had similar responses to the ruling, and expressed disappointment, but each said it ultimately intends to comply with the original ruling. But several airlines, including JetBlue, expressed concerns that this decision could have a negative impact on fliers.

"This... could have unintended consequences and result in harming consumers with more delays and cancellations rather than protecting their interests," the airline said in a statement.

I thought ATL330 was the position awaiting approval for the AE.

Actually as the pay tops out at 12, and the first year is probation, it's really like 11 years x 2 months or 22 months, less than 2 years pay.....Not small change, but just keeping it real

Match that with this:

Reducing pilot fatigue is a top priority for U.S. airline regulators. But new rules are being delayed by disagreements within the Obama administration over whether the anticipated safety improvements would justify the cost to airlines.

He addressed that, the only reason it will not, is because they can't handle the training. The 2nd. 330 sim is not certified yet, he did mention we might see 330's in both ATL and NYC next year.

There is our out. "Ladies and gents, ATC says we would disrupt airport operations if we go back to the gate. Sorry."