keen- give it a rest, ok?

DAL-S sucks... I get it.

Look at your FOM and check out FPS waypoint crossing procedures (HOWGOZIT). It's exactly what you do. FPS like worldflight has a very similar computer flight plan. Both release systems print ONE copy of that. ONE!! No difference between the two and only ONE copy of that in the cockpit on both systems. Geez.


As far as the nonrev thing, no clue why that happened. I cannot remember a time I've had to leave with seats open. Sounds like a dispatcher/load planning screwup more than anything. We don't leave nonrevs either on the southside... if we have to leave with seats empty there are always questions. Sound familiar? That's because we aren't a complacent bunch of cowboys.

The high horse thing has run its course.

http://verydemotivational.files.word...5767320131.jpg

This reminds me of a few companies I know of....

80 it just becomes an issue of ULH flights. You see it on some of the deep LA and ER flying out of the ME. The 744 and 777 get some of that occasionally with MGTOW.

Like I pointed out above, look at your max planned weights and if they do not match book, look deeper. If it is fluff, call. Simple.
(Guess they add fluff for the ranchers cat food! :eek:)

Well we have been really trying but one person that I will not mention his name on here is no no no no no carve out. Also one paticular person really backed down in NRT and was I must say was shocked at the amount of anger and disgust with the way things are going for our particular aircraft. In so many words he finally backed down and said do it safe but when asked are you saying this?????? would not put it into writing. At least he said do it as to what we considered to be safe. You guys do not usually have 12-13 day trips and have no idea of how to do crew rest based on flying a trip like this. Much more different that the usual out and back trips that DAL does. Nothing against anyone, but maybe we know how to do this in that we have been doing it for 25 years. Hey guys I am fighting for you on this, this is not a DAL issue or a NWA issue In 25 years I know what works. I promise you will thank us about this change or if it doesn't we don't care as we are doing it the way it works for us. By the way we hear that alot of the 777 guys do it our way anyway 50/50. Only trying to make things better for everyone.

That was my point that if you end up restricted guys are going to start checking into why. :)

That 5000 pounds on the whale sounds like the slop was added for that staff of 12 senior FAs.... :D

waddlewaddlewaddlewaddle

No;
Waddle-smack-waddle-smack. Poor FC passenger are all getting off with black eyes again!

The only thing we play with on the 777 is allowable tolerance, you know +/- 1000 lbs etc. There is usually a very good reason for the numbers to be the way they are. AWABS is tail number specific and flight route specific.

IOWs, playing cowboy is on you.

And gate agents wonder why I prefer window seats on deadheads. :)

Ergo, checking the plan numbers in the remarks section.

Max Planned weight for this flying XXX,XXXlbs. No critical terrain issues to planned weight. Or Route planned due critical terrain issues at this weight. Must fly flight plan route to point XXXXX.

Can I get an Amen in the house!