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Waves 04-05-2010 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 789911)
HOLY COW:eek:!!!! Look at those gas prices!:D

Why do you think SouthWest stopped in there? :D Filler up Mac.

tsquare 04-05-2010 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 789885)
Holy cow, you guys must've been the first.

We had it on DEX about then...

tsquare 04-05-2010 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 789903)
At NWA, we insisted on 5-day trips - lots of 'em. The southern section will come to appreciate them as more guys are forced into commuting.

Yeah... commuting will be something new for us... :eek:

forgot to bid 04-05-2010 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 789911)
HOLY COW:eek:!!!! Look at those gas prices!:D

+10 points.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 790009)
Anyone flying through ATL notice that the Alaska flight that we DO NOT code share on has been moved from the D Concourse to B33? We are servicing it every day over on B.........

Hopefully this inspires not just a great awakening, but a great anger and then a new great scope clause.

Here's to glass half full.

acl65pilot 04-05-2010 06:32 AM

I know I will probably get nailed for this but here goes:

You ever notice that we constantly get schooled on how ALPA cannot focus on small little issues that do not effect the whole group and that we need to see the big picture and work on issues that have the potential to impact us all?

Well as far as I am concerned, commuting falls in to the ALL category. That IMO is worth fixing and worth ALPA's effort! (Sorry PG :D )

Waves 04-05-2010 06:32 AM

Guys, let’s put it into perspective:

1) PBS=Pay Cut
2) Vacation Bank=Pay Cut
3) Less Credit Time=Pay Cut
4) Loss of Pensions=Pay Cut
5) Reduction in Benefits=Pay Cut
6) Pay Cut=Pay Cut
7) Inflation=Pay Cut
8) Excessive Green Slips=Pay Cut (Yes that’s correct)
9) Excessive Inverse Assignments=Pay Cut (Limited)
10) (Insert more here)=Pay Cut
Anyone see a pattern developing here? :mad: Just wondering.

As a side note: Guys, as far as complaining about rotations, you might as well be whizzin in the wind. Until most of the aircraft/pilots are relocated, and bases are mostly figured out, even the scheduling computer might as well be whizzin in the wind. It’s going to be upside down for years to come. Welcome to the largest airline in the world. :)

forgot to bid 04-05-2010 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 790034)
I know I will probably get nailed for this but here goes:

You ever notice that we constantly get schooled on how ALPA cannot focus on small little issues that do not effect the whole group and that we need to see the big picture and work on issues that have the potential to impact us all?

Well as far as I am concerned, commuting falls in to the ALL category. That IMO is worth fixing and worth ALPA's effort! (Sorry PG :D )

Unless you're living in NYC and based in NY, then chances are you're in danger of commuting one day.... even if its just to chase a plane around (764, 777, 747, etc).

sailingfun 04-05-2010 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by keenster (Post 790001)
Sailing,
I respect your post however I do not like the tone of acceptance of lower credit times. What is the problem with trying to produce rotations with higher credit time vs rotations with lower credit time? To me, the company has xxxxxxxxhours to fly every month,and as long as xxxxxxflying is done who cares if we do it in 14 days vs 18 days a month per pilot. This in my opinion is something that needs to change for the good of the entire pilot group. Pilots doing their flying for the month in fewer days is a win win for everyone in that the company has a happier employee and the pilot is happier in that he has more time at home with the same pay. It also frees up more off days for pick up of open trips as well. It seems as if it is all for one(dal) and none for all(the pilots) in this regard. I think we need to shift gears on the software!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

We think exactly alike on this issue. My post did not communicate what I was trying to say!! The companies software is geared to reducing credit time. I did not mean total rotation time. What I meant was time from 1 for 2 and 1 for 3.5 along with the daily mins. Your speaking of the total value of the rotation on a day for day basis. The company will build high time trips if it does not cost them credit time. Keep in mind however that building high time trips at one base may seem easy and simply however it very well could increase credit time at another base.
As a simply example. You could have a turn from DTW to SAN. Lets say its worth 7:50. A pilot living in DTW would love this trip. The company builds it as a turn. Everyone is happy right? Well not exactly. When you build high time turns you always impact other trips. In order to build high time 3 or 4 day trips you almost always need to get at least a couple of long legs into the rotations. If your long legs are all on turns your longer trips suffer.
Again as I mentioned the company is actually pretty responsive for suggestions in rotation improvements. If however they have more credit time in the rotations its going to be a hard sell. Again I am talking credit only not the total rotation value.

forgot to bid 04-05-2010 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 790035)
As a side note: Guys, as far as complaining about rotations, you might as well be whizzin in the wind. Until most of the aircraft/pilots are relocated, and bases are mostly figured out, even the scheduling computer might as well be whizzin in the wind. It’s going to be upside down for years to come. Welcome to the largest airline in the world. :)

Nobody probably wants to complain more about rotations and a categories trips being lost to other planes then those who are playing Second Life in GRU and GIG. :D

acl65pilot 04-05-2010 06:42 AM

Yep, this summer is going to be interesting.


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