ACL: No one is forced to commute. We just all have to live in ATL.:D Of course I am being facetious. With the new DAL, I think making it easier to commute will be a high priority for a majority. Lets just hope that the feds don't get pressured enough into making it illegal to commute. You know, in our deregulated airline industry. Fortunately Babbit is against it. Maybe he was once upon a time a commuter. Waves

Understood.

Some NWA did
 

Some at NWA insisted on lots of 5 day trips. That would be the commuters. The other some of us that do not commute hate 5 day trips and do not insist on them. I just hope there are enough to make the commuters happy without forcing the leftovers on the rest of us be it north or south.

Just browsing through the last few days of posts and wanted to add a few comments.

Northwest had the Carmen software and has been using it for pattern construction for several years before the merger as well (the company called it "optimizing, and we called it something else:mad:.) So, to blame the changes in pattern construction on Carmen is not really accurate. Like any software, Carmen works based on the inputs it is given by the user.

Pre-bankruptcy, we had higher duty and trip rigs, and still had 5 day trips.

As a commuter, I am still not a big fan of the 5 day. A 4 day with a decent value is still what I would prefer. The key to an overall QOL for any category is having enough variety of trips in the bid package to give everyone the chance to build the type of schedule that they prefer.

...including an Alaska check in kiosk at the gate:confused:

I found the whole AS thing as humorous as time and again that keep stating that this flight is not one of the code share flights we operate with them, and we do nothing to help them with it. Then this start happening.
Just shows you. We may not sell the tickets, but we do almost everything else.

I know someone will get on here and tell me that it is only a gate change, etc. That is not the point.

Sorry acl, but what is the point? Edit: Nevermind, reading back I think I see your point now. Are you saying that this is secretly some outsourcing going on?

I seriously doubt it will be bad enough that conflicts will be more than an occasional curiosity.

Point is, many are worried that NWA's deal with Alaska allows them to replace you on flights between "hubs" like SEA - ATL. Others have noticed AS replaced us in LAX San Cabo and several other markets (the one with an all inclusive on the beach just sticks in my memory for some reason).

Company and ALPA say AS is not replacing us. That SEA is not a hub and we don't code share on THAT flight. Meanwhile the duck spotters think they have a duck spotted based on it's Anatidae like characteristics.

Well said Bar.

Yes, we do not "code share" on said flight, but we service the above and below wing on our gate in our hub where we are normally negative on gate space.