Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 805808)

This was updated by the author of the article.

Posted by Robert Herbst @ 12:50 PM Mon, May 03, 2010
Investor,

I won't answer for Terry but I will clarify you cannot use the data above for any (credible# airline-to-airline comparisons. Here's why:

The capacity/traffic #RPM's & ASM's) above are for mainline operations -except- DAL which is consolidated with their affiliates.

The revenue/expenses includes mainline -and- affiliate inputs but the employee counts only include the parent company.

In other words, a significant amount of revenue/expenses for some carriers comes from "contracted" regional affiliates/partners.

In order to do analogous comparisons, you must reconcile the differences from mainline and regional capacity purchase agreements.

Robert Herbst
AirlineFinancials.com




From Terry: Bob H. is right on. When I do my monthly traffic charts, I always back out the regional numbers, a particular issue with Delta. It was even more complicated when it reported Delta and Northwest separately but in the same release.

Delta's mainline RPMs in 2009 were 163,706 million and mainline ASMs were 197,723 million.

Delta also shows that $5.29 billion of its revenues came from regional carriers, but doesn't say what part of that came from carriers it doesn't own.

In addition, under expenses Delta lists $3.82 billion in "contract carrier arrangements" and $1.60 billion for "contracted services."

So statistical charts like this simply represent a best effort, and often do not include an apples-to-apples comparison.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 805816)

You'll love it 80. I love it. Just keep the cross hairs thingy in the middle of the other thingy. And, oh, land hot. Don't chop. Works much mo betta. I keep the AT on until 100 feet and then punch it off.

Also, be thin. No fat. The CP is too small. If you have a hefty partner, his or her stuff will be in your stuff. And don't hold hands across the center console. It happens...and its not pretty.:eek:

Its like bunking on summer camp...only you won't be at summer camp.

Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 805814)

I hope you use the fancy beer top poppers you buy in Japan.

P.S. If you have those and your friends see them, be prepared to buy them in bulk...

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 805834)

Beer;

If there is an announcement it will be out shortly. I have a feeling they have made the decision and marketing has presented the 2011 block plan, so they can now move forward.

Of note even if we hire today, those pilots will not make it to the line until fall.

I believe that we will see new pilots here. I have a good idea on the number, but with everything it is a moving target. One or two variables could up or down that number. In 2007 they were saying they would hire indefinitely an we did not even have 700 before the doors were shuttered.

My gut is telling me that the waters have a very stiff current underneath the surface. I bet a lot of questions will be answered by the Fall AE.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 805816)

You'll love it 80. I love it. Just keep the cross hairs thingy in the middle of the other thingy. And, oh, land hot. Don't chop. Works much mo betta. I keep the AT on until 100 feet and then punch it off.

Also, be thin. No fat. The CP is too small. If you have a hefty partner, his or her stuff will be in your stuff. And don't hold hands across the center console. It happens...and its not pretty.:eek:

Its like bunking on summer camp...only you won't be at summer camp.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 805840)

So... slot swap rumors? Anything?