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Profit Sharing
Can someone explain how our profit sharing is calculated? I've read the PWA but it is a little confusing. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 812643)
First, I used the wrong term when I said scope was a issue on the larger aircraft. I should have said fences.
On the rest of your post I agree with you. What you and I think however is not relevant. Management does not feel that a 100 seater fits in the fleet plan and that it can be operated at the margins they want to see. Even adjusted for fuel burn to a modern aircraft the DC-9 is not impressing them. Thats why the 30, and 40's are going so fast and no replacement. They like to promise a replacement when they want something from us normally in the scope section. Management has been trotting out the same old 100 seat presentation since 1991 when they retired the DC9's. They have just changed the candidate aircraft names. They always say they are very near a agreement to purchase a 100 seat aircraft. When they get what they want contractually or the issue dies then the rumors of a 100 seat aircraft from them die off also until the next want. Then they bring it back again. I have personally heard so many times they are going to purchase a 100 seat aircraft it falls on deaf ears now. Talking with someone in the know the simple truth is that they don't want a airframe that size. They are not going to push for it at the connection carriers either. They are simply not going to get one. Especially since you'd be buying new 100 seaters and for that amount of money you could've bought at least 2, maybe 3, used MD-90s? So one plane for 100 seats or three planes for 450 seats? |
Originally Posted by caddis
(Post 812639)
Why is everyone so fast to give up on the 100 seat jet? Delta can not outsource the 100 seat market unless WE let them. I do not get it we already have a scope clause that has done more to negatively affect the seniority list than ANYTHING else. That includes the SLI and all the North guys stealing Bar's seats :).
I am for one am prepared to strike over 100 seat scope. I am not giving up on the airframe. I would never allow the company a scope change to operate a aircraft with more then 76 seats anywhere other then the mainline. What I am saying is that the company does not want a 100 seat aircraft at the mainline. They would take it at the connection level but they also know it will never fly with the pilot group so they will simply do without the aircraft. You will not see more then a token effort on the companies part to move the scope line past 76 seats on the next contract. They don't believe a aircraft in that size range can over time generate the margins they would like to see. They have validated that now with their experience with the nines in the last two years. What you and I believe has not bearing on what they will purchase. I would also strike over 100 seats at the connection carriers. |
Originally Posted by Howgozit
(Post 812656)
Can someone explain how our profit sharing is calculated? I've read the PWA but it is a little confusing. Thanks.
There is not much need for calculations at the moment since Richard Anderson has failed to generate a dime of profit as CEO of Delta. He did however pay himself 28 million in his first 26 months as CEO while losing money every quarter! Is that what you mean by profit sharing? P.S. I noticed he made the list for the 10 greediest men in American for 2009 for his pillage of the Delta treasury. The only non banker to make the list! |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 812649)
Sailing, a 100 seater only makes a little sense for some of the destinations out of LGA. With a carrier of our size, it is easy to create a route system that works much more efficiently with larger airframes.
As a merged company what you say makes a lot of sense. I wonder if the answer is used A319s as the DC9s leave? http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...id/temp-19.jpg The A319 never gets any photo love on here. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 812632)
Sorry, I typed that wrong. I should have said contract issues are holding a announcement up. I meant the fences. I believe the company would like the fence dropped on the 777 before a announcement.
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Not Really
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 812286)
FTB,
There are also some other factors that come into play here: You are using 12 year pay rates for both pilot groups - at DAL that would be the junior CAPT seat and would normally pay less than the 12 year rate. Scoop - Trying to be optimistic on Sunday morning.:) Trying to be realistic on a Monday morning.;) |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 812671)
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 812643)
They are not going to push for it at the connection carriers either. They are simply not going to get one.
With all due respect, they don't have to push for it at the "connection carriers" anymore, because one of them already has it. The void of not having a 100-seat a/c at mainline will be filled by "our feeders, errrr I mean, our competition". Oh, what's the difference, Delta funds both the same anyway. :rolleyes: GJ |
Just heard on Fox that one of our guys was arrested carrying a concealed weapon through security. Details to follow. Hope it was an FFDO mix up and nothing more.
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