What's the deal with pilots asking the forum for answers they have in their contract?

You can't enforce what you don't know.

I've relied on Delta to do the right thing, because I seldom could catch a problem, if at all. Trouble is, you're now adding about 5,000 guys that are trying to make this work, to the 7,000 guys that might be too complacent, throwing in fNWA schedulers AND new-hire schedulers that are not going to understand the contract, and are going to be "all about" covering the flights. That's a recipe for abuse.
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Bingo! And that's why there were so many grievances at NWA. Time to break the hand holding with management and schedulers. It's either in the contract, or it's not. The old; fly now, grieve later, may be coming back. Need a good contract admin rep though to ensure the grievances get filed....Anyone see Ken?

05-26-2010 | 03:31 PM

#38982

buzzpat

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From: Urban chicken rancher.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Anyone else notice that the flight time in type is missing from the rotations? What is up with that?

We're all going back to zero. Its the new Delta.

05-26-2010 | 04:21 PM

#38983

tsquare

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Are yall playing in Opelika at the Robert Trent Jones course? If so, I've seen it from the air for years, it looks awesome. Did K lose a bet?

I have played a few of the RTJ courses... very well done. I think I played the Opelika course.. At least there is something good in Bama....

Nicklaus did (I think) 4 courses in Tennessee that are all public and very nice also. that is called the Bear Trace.

05-26-2010 | 04:28 PM

#38984

scambo1

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From: 777B

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsquare

I have played a few of the RTJ courses... very well done. I think I played the Opelika course.. At least there is something good in Bama....

Nicklaus did (I think) 4 courses in Tennessee that are all public and very nice also. that is called the Bear Trace.

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Bear Trace (Nicklaus designed) is at Tims Ford State Park in Winchester, Tax Evader TN. Nice Course was there this past weekend. They have about 30 cabins too that are pretty available and reasonable if you want to make a week of it. Great countryside.

Speakin of Tax Evader TN, the world's largest outdoor music festival - Bonaroo - Starts June 11 im Manchester TN - I've been the past three years and it is the modern day woodstock, just better planned.

05-26-2010 | 04:33 PM

#38985

tsquare

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by reddog25

This argument is going to get really old. As many people have stated here and elsewhere, things at DAL can.. have been taken care of with a simple phone call to scheduling. Contrary to folklore, schedulers are not out to get you. They make mistakes. Oft times, you can call them on it and they will rectify the problem right then and there. If you want to call that "hand holding" then have at it. Nothing I will say will change your attitude. And by the same token, I don't want a Ken Watts type "holding my hand" and filing grievances when the aforementioned phone call will have the same net result. However, a good contract admin guy does have his place. But you choose the adversarial path first, I do not. I guess we must agree to disagree. The last word is yours.

05-26-2010 | 04:34 PM

#38986

Gunfighter

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SEA 7ER Base

Any word on how quickly Delta plans on moving pilots into the SEA 7ER? I know they have until December to complete the conversions, but I suspect they will move many of the current 7ER pilots sooner rather than later.

05-26-2010 | 04:37 PM

#38987

tsquare

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by scambo1

I can't remember, but I think I have played that course. Is it the one that is near a power plant or something like that? I do remember that each hole has a nice bail out area, and just enough temptation to "go for it" if you want. I think that is a Nicklaus trademark.

Does the festival have a lot of bluegrass? You know they did camperfest in Knoxville for awhile, and that was a lot of fun...