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06-06-2010 | 08:31 AM
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That will end up being a problem. The premerger stuff hasn't been vetted yet obviously but I'd bet $$ it won't be like that for long. Delta and ALPA are very adamant about the seniority and Capt instructor thing. Put a bug in your LEC rep's ear.
06-06-2010 | 08:31 AM
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From: DAL Pilot
Can any of you delta guys shed light on why delta is taking all of mesabas saabs away and wants an "all jet regional operation" and yet still have skywest fly brasilias for delta connection out of slc? also, why does delta keep saying all turboprop routes arent going anywhere? gettin a jet into Hilton head or Jamestown is gonna be tough. Sorry to highjack the thread.
06-06-2010 | 10:37 AM
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Just to clarify the two crews that were in trouble at JFK. Were not talking a few minutes. One crew was told to expect a 90 minute delay for a deice slot. They blocked the aircraft out. Ramp tower corrected the time to their actual push time and one of the FO's filed a grievance with the union to get the time back. This lead to a investigation on how the time got changed and the gate video and autobahn tapes were pulled. It got ugly from there.
The second time it was a long haul over 12 hour flight. The dispatcher noticed the flight had been on the ground after push for over 2 hours. He called JFK ground to see why the flight was not airborne and try and expedite the flight to avoid the crew timing out. JFK ground informed them that the aircraft was still at the gate and had never pushed. No ones going to hassle you or fire you over 5 minutes or even 15 minutes. Had the copilot in the first crew not filed a grievance it would have never been a issue. The second incident happened within a week or so of the first when things were now highlighted.
The second time it was a long haul over 12 hour flight. The dispatcher noticed the flight had been on the ground after push for over 2 hours. He called JFK ground to see why the flight was not airborne and try and expedite the flight to avoid the crew timing out. JFK ground informed them that the aircraft was still at the gate and had never pushed. No ones going to hassle you or fire you over 5 minutes or even 15 minutes. Had the copilot in the first crew not filed a grievance it would have never been a issue. The second incident happened within a week or so of the first when things were now highlighted.
Thanks, Sailing. I feel a little better.
06-06-2010 | 11:02 AM
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AE Training is out Training vs. Conversion
Hey fellas,
If I'm Training in OCT and Converting in DEC when does the new pay start?
One more, if I'm done with 73N training end of OCT does that mean I keep flying the M88 until I convert in DEC?
Thanks
If I'm Training in OCT and Converting in DEC when does the new pay start?
One more, if I'm done with 73N training end of OCT does that mean I keep flying the M88 until I convert in DEC?
Thanks
06-06-2010 | 11:18 AM
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New pay rate starts on the day you are converted.
They often do "mid-month conversions". ie= if you finish training on Nov 15th, they can convert you on the 16th and give you an IOE on the 17th. It will appear as MMC on your schedule.
It can also happen that you convert before you are even done with training. (occasionally before you even start training) They do that because of the seniority rules for conversions and because it is cheaper than pay protecting other pilots senior or junior to you. Its a rare good deal. Just like a paid vacation. Doesn't happen as often as it used to because the contract now gives them a 60 day buffer for conversions out of seniority.
On your 2nd question:
Once you set foot in the schoolhouse for 737 training, your M88 qual goes away. You will not go back to fly the M88.
One more detail -- if you convert mid-month or otherwise haven't been qualified to bid under PBS on your new jet, scheduling will give you your choice of a reserve line or a blank regular line.
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06-06-2010 | 11:33 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply, it helps.
06-06-2010 | 11:41 AM
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From: DAL Pilot
I have a question about international pay. I'll be on reserve in the -ER. If I fly an international trip, but don't break guarantee, do I still get the international override? Will it show up as extra pay on top of my 70 hour guarantee? Or is it somehow converted to credit towards guarantee?
06-06-2010 | 11:47 AM
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From: M88B
Hey guys I have seen a seniority listing of how the junior seats in each domicile and equipment came out after an AE is there anyone willing to post that for this latest AE. or at least where the vacancies are from it anyway. Thanks.
06-06-2010 | 12:06 PM
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Of course they appointed a former NW guy to run the 767 program even though he has never flown a 767 and commutes from Seattle.
Delta has always been very fair with management positions. Several Pan Am pilots went very high in management and I believe two Western Pilots became VP of flight ops.
06-06-2010 | 12:09 PM
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One thing to think about is those guys may have agreed to stay on for a while after the merger to help out. For fNWA guys that still have a pension it may be time to hang it up. Just saying, let's not get too sinister here with great fNWA suddenly retiring - I"m sure they will both be missed. Do agree we shouldn't have a guy with NO 747 experience being fleet captain.
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