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Old 06-30-2010, 11:47 AM
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Yeah, it's a nice hotel. Did 606 training there a few months ago and never left the hotel. Standard hotel bar with good food and company with other guys going through one thing or another. Saw the famous Spondivits on the way to the training center, looks to be about a 10 minute walk (?)
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:52 AM
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Yeah, it's a nice hotel. Did 606 training there a few months ago and never left the hotel. Standard hotel bar with good food and company with other guys going through one thing or another. Saw the famous Spondivits on the way to the training center, looks to be about a 10 minute walk (?)
The food there is actually pretty good and the beer is really cold, which comes in handy on a summer afternoon in the ATL. The only concerns I've ever had when going through there were walking around late at night. But like KC-10 says, there's a crew van that runs from the hotel to the training center. I made the mistake one night of walking back from a D period sim to the hotel and ran into a group of hookers and a pimp. I didn't see New around so I made a beeline for the hotel. Now I take the van.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
Carl I somewhat agree with you. However, you can't hold the company liable for the actions of others. The company provides you secure transportation from the airport, hotel, and training facilities. The hotels I've stayed in are secure. So I'm not quite sure how DAL could be liable here.

It is a slippery slope for DALPA to start naming areas of towns as "not safe".
Maybe, but we were in a REAL NICE hotel near the Mall of America (MSP) several years ago. Anyway, 2 guys walking back from Outback Steakhouse (only about a block away) got robbed in that hotel's park lot. We were outta there in less than a week. I'm sure they were concerned for our safety too.........but I'll bet they were worried about a spouse suing them if things had really gone south.

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However, like others things you complain about, I'm sure you can muster up a strongly worded post on APC for DAL's management to read.
Uncalled for.......give it a rest
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
Carl I somewhat agree with you. However, you can't hold the company liable for the actions of others. The company provides you secure transportation from the airport, hotel, and training facilities. The hotels I've stayed in are secure. So I'm not quite sure how DAL could be liable here.

It is a slippery slope for DALPA to start naming areas of towns as "not safe".

However, like others things you complain about, I'm sure you can muster up a strongly worded post on APC for DAL's management to read.
Leave it to you to excuse even something like this. You may not be sure of how DAL could be liable, but any wrongful injury/death attorney would be glad to explain it to you. But then again, you would have to listen...so maybe they couldn't explain it to you.

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That does not sound good. I've got enough to worry about during training, like how to avoid 5 am simulator periods. We don't need to worry about that kind of stuff, too. What's the chance we change hotels sometime in the future?
The hotel isn't bad, just not as nice as the ***** at MSP. Many guys drive down to ATL for long training, so they can get away from the usual hangouts on Va. Ave. There is also a rent a wreck place (forget the name) that guys will use for a long term rental while they are there. I got a Dodge Neon once and I only had to fill the front tire once a week. Real chick magnet.

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Old 06-30-2010, 11:56 AM
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Yep, it's legal. You can get your 24 hours at a layover.
Thanks, Cycle.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Leave it to you to excuse even something like this. You may not be sure of how DAL could be liable, but any wrongful injury/death attorney would be glad to explain it to you. But then again, you would have to listen...so maybe they couldn't explain it to you.

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Carl:

Buddy, you need to take the emotion out of the argument and stop assuming that everyone's out to get you, or against you. This is my beef with you Carl.

Lesson for everyone on the forum.

My simple post was ... paraphrasing ... "I don't see how DAL could be liable because they have in good faith provided sound transportation and a place to stay."

But, Carl, who by disagrees with this position, instead of debating the merits or lack of merit of the content, instead attacks the messenger (me), as if I'm the person who is putting people in harms way, and instead changes the argument, making it appear as if I agreed with DAL allowing us to stay in a crap hole.

Good on ya Carl.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
Carl:

Buddy, you need to take the emotion out of the argument and stop assuming that everyone's out to get you, or against you.
Don't think it, and never said. But preciate your concern.

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This is my beef with you Carl.

Lesson for everyone on the forum.

My simple post was ... paraphrasing ... "I don't see how DAL could be liable because they have in good faith provided sound transportation and a place to stay."
Really? Just that simple?

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But, Carl, who by disagrees with this position, instead of debating the merits or lack of merit of the content, instead attacks the messenger (me), as if I'm the person who is putting people in harms way, and instead changes the argument, making it appear as if I agreed with DAL allowing us to stay in a crap hole.

Good on ya Carl.
You mean kind of like this?

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However, like others things you complain about, I'm sure you can muster up a strongly worded post on APC for DAL's management to read.
Yeah, you're right. I'll try to cut down on all that changing the subject and attacking the messenger stuff.

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Old 06-30-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat View Post
The training environment is just fine. It is indeed the LIVING environment. Watch out for the bearded clams that hang out at Spondivits after midnight.
Now I'm really scared. Bearded clams don't sound good.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:52 PM
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Now I'm really scared. Bearded clams don't sound good.
Hmm...I'm not sure either.

Let's ask Ferd!!

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