Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Dear Scoop the Skeptical,
I think you missed what was actually said about the profitability of the 737-700 in the fleet. The problem is the 737-700 is not a profitable airplane, which moves it into the same category as the DC9-30, DC9-40, DC9-50, MD88, MD90, 757-200, 757-300, 767-300, 767-400, 777-200, 747-200, 747-400, CRJ200, CRJ900, CRJ700, E145, E175, 737-800, A330, A320, A319.

Those airplanes are evidently all unprofitable as long as we're flying them.



I kid. But actually, its probably more true than we know. If you owned just one of those airplanes you wouldn't probably make a profit, if you owned a fleet of just one of them you'd struggle to remain profitable once you grew to full capacity. As a group they fill a niche and feed each other while we aim to make them as cheap as possible by buying whats the most mission appropriate and cost effective (new 777s or used MD90s). Its a collective, we all need each other really, Carl needs Buzz, Buzz needs Carl, Nu needs Bar, Bar needs Nu, Newk needs nobody, its just a happy place.

Where is 80 btw? Got his ipad and we hear less from him?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I'm here! Still pouting that Carl didn't go all Latin on me.

Originally Posted by FlyingViking

You too?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

found a great picture of you online though!

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

The CRJ900 and 700s are good looking planes and look like a lot of fun to fly. However, as a pax, not crazy about the 700 and I've never flown on the CRJ900 to compare. I just think they're very narrow planes and I think the seat pitch must have shrunk at they installed the FC. And one bathroom on a 70-seater is pushing it, and the FA jump seat making 5 across is chintzy. The airplane seems to be a solid machine but 1x2 seating would be better. Its not a big deal on short flights, but about an hour is all I want on one.

The E-jet felt or is wider and the windows are big and it just had a big jet feel and I liked riding in it a lot. But if we can get 3 MD90s for the price of 1, I can see why we're not making a move to have E190s here.

From a pax standpoint, and comparing coach seats (excluding exit rows), I would take the E-jet or the 2-seat side of the 88 over everything we had in the PMDAL fleet. Sad to say. I'll take the CRJ over a middle seat any day though. Of course I've heard the Bus' are comfortable, I'd like to try one some day.

Did I mention I'm 6'5"? I kind of don't fit in anything we have and I cannot lean my head back in any mainline airplane as the seat backs only come to my shoulders. But thats just my observation and something that is all very low on my complaint totem poll this evening.

Originally Posted by FlyingViking

A few six packs and that's it !