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Carl Spackler 08-13-2010 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 854485)
Hey Gents, PIREP from DTW. Carl is lurking nearby. The DTW crew hotel has a special tonight- "Roasted Amish Chicken." I kid you not...hilarious!

Was the menu printed on a dot matrix printer??:D

Carl

Ferd149 08-13-2010 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 855127)
The story I head was this:

Back in the day all airlines were Air Lines or airways. All of the other airlines were found guilty of price colusion et al and had to basically become different entites, so they went from Air Lines to Airlines. DAL wasnot part of the CAB's findings at the time and therefore kept the Air Lines and did not have to go to airlines like the rest of the companies.

It was during the CAB if I recall correctly.

I recall something along these lines from one of the CAB courses I took in college as well, but that has been many years ago, and I am too lazy to go find my text books in the basement!

You are correct. NWA went from Northwest Airways to Northwest Airlines to get their US Airmail contract back after the scandal (I have a replica airways sign hanging in the office):cool:.

History is cool eh?

dalad 08-13-2010 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 855113)
Hey 20 Mile, as one who was actually working at the Clinton White House, which I guess qualifies me to have an opinion, I don't think your "rightwing extremist mother-in-law" is that far off base. Statistically, maybe what you are using for a data base isn't that smart either. Just a suggestion. But, from where I sit, she has it right...and you don't.

Oopss..big ooopss for you. You never know whose watching on these APC sites do you?

Your opinion ended up being a book which you profited off of. Buzz, don't get me wrong since I bought your book after we flew together-but aren't you sort of biting the hand that fed you? The Clinton's made you more money than you would have made with the Bush 1 or Bush 2. At least they were tabloid material for you. Good book BTW.

chuck416 08-13-2010 09:31 AM

BUT...don't start your APU until it's 105 in the back, or all -heck- is going to break loose![/quote]


Did you say don't START the APU till it's 105 in the back? Man, on the DC-9, we don't SHUT OFF the APU till it cools down TO 105....
Chuck
MEM DC-9/A

forgot to bid 08-13-2010 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 855228)
If it is so important to spell the name of the company "Delta Air Lines" instead of "Delta Airlines" then why is it spelled "Delta Airlines" on the pilot seniority list? Go look, it's spelled wrong.

Man, you're going to get somone tarred and fathered. The one thing about an old company is it has history, we just don't always know why. I guess if Delta was proud not to be caught up in the situation many decades ago that ACL described then I can see why they wanted to still be called Delta Air Lines.


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 855207)
They buy it based on price, convenience and on time.

My understanding from revenue folks is people will chose their tickets based on price down to as low as $2. My question is, if the ticket is $525 ATL-LGA, are they buying the $523 ATL-CLT-PHL-LGA and not realizing it? If so, ha ha. Enjoy!

DeadHead 08-13-2010 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by 20 Mile Final (Post 855239)
Well, of course a call-in talk show represents "a sample." It's just not a statistically significant sample and, therefore, worthless as a basis of drawing correct conclusions.

The nature of a talk show inherently has a biased database and is in no way a representative sample. For instance, what percentage of Rush Limbaugh's listeners would characterize themselves as "liberals"?

What percentage of Air America Radio listeners would characterize themselves as "conservatives?"

Professional pollsters, those who make a living on trying to ferret out ACCURATE results, know that there is actually a SCIENCE to these sort of things - and call-in talk shows are certainly not scientific.

Not that this is the proper outlet for it or anything, so I'll keep it brief.


Originally Posted by 20 Mile Final (Post 854834)
This reminds me of my rightwing extremist mother-in-law, with whom I get into many political discussions. She listens to all these call-in talk shows.

It's statements like this that move to self-define anyone who listens to a left or right leaning talk shows as being an 'extremist' by default. Maybe that is what your saying, maybe it's not, but either way just because a person has a certain political belief and tends to listen to broadcasters who speak to those beliefs that in no way makes them an extremist.

I think the average, intelligent adult realizes when a talk show they are listening to becomes too radical and stops presenting both sides/alternate angles to a story. The media today prides itself in knee-jerk overreactions, it's up to each individual to take it with a grain of salt or look at it as face value.

Anyway, when is the JFK Terminal 3 Doomsday Countdown Clock starting???

20 Mile Final 08-13-2010 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 855290)
You are correct. NWA went from Northwest Airways to Northwest Airlines to get their US Airmail contract back after the scandal (I have a replica airways sign hanging in the office):cool:.

History is cool eh?

Wasn't it also Northwest Orient Airlines for a while?

20 Mile Final 08-13-2010 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 855275)
Was the menu printed on a dot matrix printer??:D

Carl

No, parchment.

forgot to bid 08-13-2010 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 855294)
Did you say don't START the APU till it's 105 in the back? Man, on the DC-9, we don't SHUT OFF the APU till it cools down TO 105....
Chuck
MEM DC-9/A

nice.

speaking of air, who in the hell teaches the ground crews that a half dozen or so kinks and 120 degree to 180 degree turns in the hose with a three twist gator to the connection is the right way to hook up air. I am forever undoing the hoses. And lav guys, put the hose back the wa... you know, you guys have it rough enough, you get a pass. Everyone else, here comes the APU! Enjoy loading those bags with it.


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 855290)
You are correct. NWA went from Northwest Airways to Northwest Airlines to get their US Airmail contract back after the scandal (I have a replica airways sign hanging in the office):cool:.

History is cool eh?

That kind of stuff is cool. Its funny the idioms that we use that we have no clue where they originated from and its crazy how old (like several centuries) that some of them can be. I found it interesting looking at a map of ATL in the Civil War, you basically see I75, I20, I85-MGM when you look at it.

forgot to bid 08-13-2010 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by 20 Mile Final (Post 855239)
Well, of course a call-in talk show represents "a sample." It's just not a statistically significant sample and, therefore, worthless as a basis of drawing correct conclusions.

The nature of a talk show inherently has a biased database and is in no way a representative sample. For instance, what percentage of Rush Limbaugh's listeners would characterize themselves as "liberals"?

What percentage of Air America Radio listeners would characterize themselves as "conservatives?"

Professional pollsters, those who make a living on trying to ferret out ACCURATE results, know that there is actually a SCIENCE to these sort of things - and call-in talk shows are certainly not scientific.

First of all, 20 mile, I see you've made 9 posts to date, so if nobody else has said it yet, welcome aboard Homer!

As to your questions:
A) This one is easy, Air America has 0% conservative, 0% liberal, 0% moderate, 0% other. Considering it went out of business. :D

B) 80% of Rush's 15-20M member audience is conservative according to polls. The 14-20M is the estimate of the far right Washi... far left Washington Post and its been estimated to be as high as 30M, given 600 stations and that $400M contract he signed two years ago I guess its possible. But if you go with 14-20M it's, on the low side, two or so million greater per week than the number who watch Fox News and 3 times the number of MSNBC and CNN combined, over a week. Combine CBS, ABC and NBC nightly news of about 18M for a week. All that to say its not small and could represent anywhere from 5% to 10% of the nation.


Originally Posted by 20 Mile Final (Post 855220)
1. Did the majority of Arkansas citizens vote for Clinton for governor in 1978?
Yes! 43% in 1992, 49.2% in 1996.

2. Did the majority of Arkansas citizens vote for Clinton for governor in 1982, when he ran a second time?
Yes! And he kept the governorship for TEN YEARS until being elected president.

3. Did the state of Arkansas give all its electoral votes to Clinton in the 1992 presidential election?
Yes! Overwhelmingly so, in fact.

4. Did the state of Arkansas give all its electoral votes to Clinton in the presidential 1996 election?
Yes! It wasn't even close.

So, you're saying that most of the people in Arkansas didn't like Clinton? Very doubtful.

Surely (and don't call me Shirley), you're not saying that a call-in talk show has statistical significance.

5. (I know you were talking about Arkansas, but this is my favorite Clinton stat), Was Bill Clinton elected twice to President of the United States without ever going over 50% of the vote?
YES! 43% in 1992, 49.2% in 1996.

The combined number of Bush/Perot in 1992 was 56.3%, Dole/Perot was 49.1%.


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