Besides a pay increase, I would like to see a change in the definition of duty period. I don't like pre-flighting the jet, sitting there with passengers with the door open (DOT 3-hour rule) and NOT getting paid.

I would like the clock to start 30 minutes prior to the scheduled departure time. Therefore, if there's a maintenance issue we're dealing with, or a passenger issue, or waiting for the ramp to clear with the door open, we're getting paid.

This will mean that the passengers won't get on the plane unless its going (a good thing). And they won't let us sit there sweating on the plane with the door open to get around the DOT 3-hour rule, when in the past, we would have been on the tarmac somewhere.

Sailing,

This would assume DAL could develop a scheduling program to track this stuff. Considering that it will take the company about 10 years to figure out what facebook and twitter are, you are micro-managing this.

Here's the thing: it may look good on pappier, but it will bite them on the a.. later. LET IT.

I got abused by a Crew Scheduler because I could not make a Green Slip. I was in a city other than the departure city for the GS. It would take me at least 12 hrs to get there. The response: she removed my GS from the computer. NOT COOL.

Let them flounder. DAL is making money and so are we.

BD

Jet Blue has been pushing for a couple of years to change the duty day regs so they can fly transcon turns. I wonder if that will be included in the new rules.

??? No idea what your trying to say or what it has to do with my post.
Contractually GS's are not proffers you have to fly them. There is a spot for minimum report time. Best to use it.

Or just use the voicemail screening process which works great for Green Slips.

Are you saying that a Federal court issued an injunction that says (in part) that pilots must not only fly their normal schedules, but they must pick up white slip and green slip trips as well? What do you mean by "return to previous rotation pickup patterns"??

Carl

I hear the Amish are going to iPads. So maybe there's hope soon. :D

Carl

Basically yes, If the pilots trip pickup habits did not return to their historical norms he was going to fine the union heavily. Same thing happened at AMR except he did fine the union.

Interesting. Fining the union is all they could do, because fining the individual pilot would clearly be unconstitutional. Very interesting case. If only judges were so scrupulous about holding corporations to the letter of the contracts they sign.

Carl

Corporations get to shop their judges. They time the filing and court to insure they get the judge they want. Delta can file a suit in any state they do business in. They did screw up a bit with the judge they got for the Chapter 11 filing but managed to get her removed and replaced with a Bush judge quickly.