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forgot to bid 07-28-2010 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 847076)
Just found out they have fixed the glitch in icrew for changing our VRU pin for MAC users.

I hope they don't fix the glitch in payroll.

iaflyer 07-28-2010 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 847059)
Just to provide some historical perspective from my 20+ years, we've had at least 3 different methodologies with respect to this. When I was hired it was a 5:00 hr average, then it went to a per day minimum, but that could vary from 4 to 6, but the trip still had to average a minimum of 5, now its at 5:15 average. So, this is the best (as far as I recall) that its ever been.

Of course, 5:15/day is better; then again so is $300/hr for every airplane. It's just money, and each of these cost money. We simply have to decide where and how to allocate it.

Well - just to point it out, but it's not 5:15 a day, it's 5:15 a duty period. So if you only layover on a day, that day doesn't pay 5:15. Doesn't count if you are only deadheading either.

Also for reserves, the Duty Period Average doesn't work the same way. You only get the 5:15 per duty period if you have 14 or more duty periods in a month.

Flamer 07-28-2010 11:20 AM

Dp
 
What is a duty period? Sometimes I only fly(working) one short leg one day, and it does not count for a duty period.

nwaf16dude 07-28-2010 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 847070)
Thanks guys. I knew I was reading something wrong. :D

If you have any deadhead only duty periods they don't count. Also, a yellow slip or green slip on an X day doesn't count toward reserve DPA. Found that one out the hard way.

Roadie85 07-28-2010 12:37 PM

I hope our pilot group aims to improve our minimum pay per day in the next contract. 6 hours a day will require 13 days to reach 78 hours. Just a way to make the company more productive. Less hotels and per diem for Delta to pay. I want get my hours in and go home.

forgot to bid 07-28-2010 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Roadie85 (Post 847161)
I hope our pilot group aims to improve our minimum pay per day in the next contract. 6 hours a day will require 13 days to reach 78 hours. Just a way to make the company more productive. Less hotels and per diem for Delta to pay. I want get my hours in and go home.

I guess you don't want 11:10TL 3-days from JFK-LAS-JFK?

Its worth going through a A320 DTW bid package and looking at the 5-day 28hr trips. It can be done. I just think there should be a rule, they should all be commutable. The 730am start to a 17 leg 28 hour trip with constant <7am go's is a bit too much for me- I'll start bidding a line.

forgot to bid 07-28-2010 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 847138)
What is a duty period? Sometimes I only fly(working) one short leg one day, and it does not count for a duty period.

Duty Period Average (DPA) (12 H.)
A regular pilot who departs his base on a scheduled flight segment with a landing at an airport other than the airport of take-off or its co-terminal is guaranteed average pay and credit of not less than five hours and fifteen minutes (5:15) for each duty period other than a duty period comprised solely of deadheading.

Duty Period Minimum (DPM) (12 I.)
A pilot who reports for a rotation will receive minimum pay and credit of two hours for each duty period.

Exception: A pilot who acknowledges his removal from a rotation under Section 4 H.1.a. is not eligible for DPM notwithstanding Section 4 F.

Reserve Duty Period Average (12 J.)
At the end of each bid period, a reserve pilot will receive the greater of:
a. his accumulated credit earned in the bid period,
b. his reserve guarantee, or
c. 5:15 pay, no credit for each qualifying duty period.

A qualifying duty period is a duty period (other than a duty period comprised solely of deadheading) in which the pilot:
a. is credited with flight time with a landing at an airport other than the airport of takeoff or its co-terminal (except for flight segments scheduled between co-terminals or verification flights/functional check flights) on an on-call day, or
b. flies on an X-day for reasons other than a yellow slip or GS award, or
c. performs an airport standby duty period.
Refer to Section 12


Now back to my Cameron Diaz movie. :cool:

Scoop 07-28-2010 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Roadie85 (Post 847161)
I hope our pilot group aims to improve our minimum pay per day in the next contract. 6 hours a day will require 13 days to reach 78 hours. Just a way to make the company more productive. Less hotels and per diem for Delta to pay. I want get my hours in and go home.

Hopefully new crew duty/rest regulations (if ever enacted) will affect us positively in this regard.

Scoop

Denny Crane 07-28-2010 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 847138)
What is a duty period? Sometimes I only fly(working) one short leg one day, and it does not count for a duty period.

A duty period is a when you actually fly a leg (it only needs to be one leg) that lands an airport other than the airport of takeoff or a co-terminal.......unless that is the way it is scheduled.

Denny

sailingfun 07-28-2010 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 847184)
Hopefully new crew duty/rest regulations (if ever enacted) will affect us positively in this regard.

Scoop

Its likely it will have the opposite effect. With increased layover times and decreased maximum duty hours total rotation values will likely go down. There was some talk of dropping the 8 hour daily max which could have some positive effect. It is however likely that this would lead to the building of some high time turns. This will be great for very senior pilots in category but have a negative effect on other rotations. Its very difficult to build high time rotations when you take a lot of the long legs out of the mix to build turns.


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