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acl65pilot 07-28-2010 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 847047)
What we should have a a 5:15 minimum day, period. When we get into an average minimum day we still get screwed.

I agree 110%. Change it back to a calendar day average not a duty period average. Better yet, make it a min day guarantee, not a trip average.

donelurkin 07-28-2010 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 847026)
If I work 17 of 18 days on reserve this month, does that trigger 5:15 pay? Or do I just get whatever I credit?


Another question to add on to this one... If you get a greenslip, AND work 17 days on reserve, does the greenslip go on top of 70 hrs or on top of 89.25 (17 X's 5.25)?:confused:

UncleSam 07-28-2010 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 847016)
Interesting, as I don't show it. I only have qualifications, training, and personnel data.

NWA320

Be sure you are using iCrew not eCrew like in the lounge. This function is only available on iCrew.

Pineapple Guy 07-28-2010 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 847047)
What we should have a a 5:15 minimum day, period. When we get into an average minimum day we still get screwed.

Just to provide some historical perspective from my 20+ years, we've had at least 3 different methodologies with respect to this. When I was hired it was a 5:00 hr average, then it went to a per day minimum, but that could vary from 4 to 6, but the trip still had to average a minimum of 5, now its at 5:15 average. So, this is the best (as far as I recall) that its ever been.

Of course, 5:15/day is better; then again so is $300/hr for every airplane. It's just money, and each of these cost money. We simply have to decide where and how to allocate it.

shiznit 07-28-2010 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 847059)
Just to provide some historical perspective from my 20+ years, we've had at least 3 different methodologies with respect to this. When I was hired it was a 5:00 hr average, then it went to a per day minimum, but that could vary from 4 to 6, but the trip still had to average a minimum of 5, now its at 5:15 average. So, this is the best (as far as I recall) that its ever been.

Of course, 5:15/day is better; then again so is $300/hr for every airplane. It's just money, and each of these cost money. We simply have to decide where and how to allocate it.

FDX has a DPM of 6:00........

Let's hope the debt payoff strategy works and there is a bigger pie to take a slice of in 2012-13......

johnso29 07-28-2010 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 847028)
Depends - to get the DPA credit, they need to be "Duty Periods" - a day where you just laid over or DHed don't count.


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 847042)
No, if you worked 17 duty periods your would be credited 5:15 for each one. It is a duty period credit not days worked. I would love to see this go back to a day average not a duty period average.

Thanks guys. I knew I was reading something wrong. :D

NWA320pilot 07-28-2010 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by UncleSam (Post 847057)
NWA320

Be sure you are using iCrew not eCrew like in the lounge. This function is only available on iCrew.

Thanks, but I am using icrew from my home (actually hotel)...... For some reason there seems to be a glitch for MAC users.

NWA320pilot 07-28-2010 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 847059)
Just to provide some historical perspective from my 20+ years, we've had at least 3 different methodologies with respect to this. When I was hired it was a 5:00 hr average, then it went to a per day minimum, but that could vary from 4 to 6, but the trip still had to average a minimum of 5, now its at 5:15 average. So, this is the best (as far as I recall) that its ever been.

Of course, 5:15/day is better; then again so is $300/hr for every airplane. It's just money, and each of these cost money. We simply have to decide where and how to allocate it.

Ok I vote for 5:15 minimum day and $300/hr:D

Rudder 07-28-2010 08:58 AM

I'm on a Mac and just changed it, works fine. You may have to call IT folks, good luck.

NWA320pilot 07-28-2010 09:01 AM

Just found out they have fixed the glitch in icrew for changing our VRU pin for MAC users.


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