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Denny Crane 07-30-2010 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Ragtop Day (Post 847952)
GSWC is the cherry. Say you have a four day starting on Monday, but sked NEEDS to cover a two day on Sunday. You would get paid GS pay for the two day that you actually flew plus get your conflicted four day dropped WITH PAY. In additon you are free to Ws or GS over the days that get dropped. Very rare but a big moneymaker.

If what you are saying here is "you would get double pay for the 2 day and single pay for the 4 day," I don't think that is right. Essentially I read the following contract quote as you get single pay for both trips. It's 23U. The deal here is you do not have to meet a GS trigger.

GSWC
A pilot will be removed from a rotation(s) on his regular line that conflicts with a GSWC rotation(s). Such pilot will receive:
a. single pay and credit for the removed rotation(s), and
b. single pay, no credit for the GSWC rotation(s) flown.

Denny

acl65pilot 07-30-2010 07:39 AM

Denny;
Correct, it was changed a few years back. It used to be the way Ragtop Day stated. That is why it was so lucrative.

Ragtop Day 07-30-2010 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 847995)
If what you are saying here is "you would get double pay for the 2 day and single pay for the 4 day," I don't think that is right. Essentially I read the following contract quote as you get single pay for both trips. It's 23U. The deal here is you do not have to meet a GS trigger.

GSWC
A pilot will be removed from a rotation(s) on his regular line that conflicts with a GSWC rotation(s). Such pilot will receive:
a. single pay and credit for the removed rotation(s), and
b. single pay, no credit for the GSWC rotation(s) flown.

Denny

Denny, you are right. It's been so long since I have seen one my memory has faded. Thanks for the correction.

Ball Breaker 07-30-2010 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 847835)
The basis for each individuals award is as follows: Individual employee’s annual compensation in the year in which the PTIX was earned as a percentage of total annual compensation for that year for all eligible employees. The Association will have the right to review the methodology and calculation of awards prior to such awards.

This is from the contract.

The definition of "annual compensation" is also in the contract: “Annual compensation” for purposes of the profit sharing plan, means an employee’s gross earnings during the profit sharing plan year, including any sick and vacation pay (whether paid by the Company or from a disability and survivor trust), but excluding: a) expense reimbursements, b) expense allowances, c) income required to be imputed to the employee for any reason pursuant to federal, state or local law, d) profit sharing awards, e) earnings from any other incentive compensation program, f) Company contributions to a retirement plan, g) disability payments, h) income from the grant, vesting, exercise or sale of Delta stock or Delta stock options, i) income relating to, or resulting from, bankruptcy claims, notes, or other securities, j) medical plan payments and k) severance payments. In addition, annual compensation for the purposes of the profit sharing plan includes pilot furlough pay.

Denny

Any idea if "lost income" due to military leave is / is not included? Say you were on ML 6 months, do they prorate the 6 months on "expected earnings" or is your profit sharing cut 50%. Thanks.

reddog25 07-30-2010 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by Ball Breaker (Post 848039)
Any idea if "lost income" due to military leave is / is not included? Say you were on ML 6 months, do they prorate the 6 months on "expected earnings" or is your profit sharing cut 50%. Thanks.

Fellow warrior. Greetings. Unfortunately, there is no expected earnings. Just your earnings from DL. So no pro-rated.

I was mob'd for 2 years and missed out on those great free passes that were flying around back in 2003-2005 for one thing or another because I did not meet NWAs definition of employee while on ML.

Stay safe. Thank you for your service

Ball Breaker 07-30-2010 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 848049)
Fellow warrior. Greetings. Unfortunately, there is no expected earnings. Just your earnings from DL. So no pro-rated.

I was mob'd for 2 years and missed out on those great free passes that were flying around back in 2003-2005 for one thing or another because I did not meet NWAs definition of employee while on ML.

Stay safe. Thank you for your service

Thanks Reddog--
Certainly wasn't expecting it, but always like a GOOD surprise for a change. Take Care.

bigdaddie 07-30-2010 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 847638)
Question for an AWABS expert. We took off from HNL last night with a 757-300. AWABS gave us a flaps 5 (179K V2, yikes) off of 08L. What is interesting is that MGL never let you use 8L due to a climb limit. Any idea what the difference is? Flaps 5 vs flaps 15?

Honest, not picking an A vs B fight, just trying to understand.

Ferd

I've got a better one. In ANC they were using RNWY 14 due to strong crosswinds. So we had like a 29kt headwind and RNWY 14 is the longest runway. We could not get the AWABS to give us the numbers becasue we were RATOW limited. The dispatcher, load control, and us were all scratching our heads. It showed the runways with 29 kt crosswinds to be good.

Something about the DAL software I guess.

iaflyer 07-30-2010 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Ragtop Day (Post 848005)
Denny, you are right. It's been so long since I have seen one my memory has faded. Thanks for the correction.

There was a GSWC last week on the NYCERB.

forgot to bid 07-30-2010 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 847964)
It is rather simple if you read it in the PWA. Also it is automated and put right on your paring so in reality there is no need to understand it. Right number is what you can fly to, plus two hrs. Left number is actual if flown on time.

Whitlow is figured out on the top of the Preface that the gate agent gives you. It sometimes does not take in to account SC pilots on domestic duty. Most of the time it does.

You make it seem so simple. :D I'm teasing, that does help.

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Did everyone catch that there are now new Line Maintenance bases in EWR, PHL, PHX, SAN and soon MEM.

johnso29 07-30-2010 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 848120)
You make it seem so simple. :D I'm teasing, that does help.

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Did everyone catch that there are now new Line Maintenance bases in EWR, PHL, PHX, SAN and soon MEM.


Yes, thank gawd!!! I dealt with the EWR guys the other day. They're just about fully up and running. PHL should be there too, and MEM should've never been gone. :D


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