OK Forgot,

Now if you listen really, really carefully as the DC9 approaches the end of the runway, you can hear the faint screaming, (sounds like little girls screaming),..as the DC9 rotates at blazing fast speed..........just stay clear of the shock wave :)

PS: DC9 seat covers are frequently replaced

My point about the rigidity of things (perhaps not SOPA/SMAC but other NWA guidance) was:

1. F/O's didn't even know how to load the FMS because that was the captain's strict domain. Ditto for overhead preflight panel, and the exterior walkaround. While I like the fact that usually a certain duty is delegated for this crewmember or that, to absolutely 100% of the time state "only" this guy does this or that, results in you losing a lot of knowledge, and more importantly, degrades airmanship.

2. Apparently at NWA you would rather go around than have the pilot flying actually touch the flap handle? While 99% of the time the flying pilot doesn't touch the flaps or gear, there are the rare occasions when the captain is busy on the radio or coordinating something with the FAs. In that case if I am slowing down I will move the flaps and just sort of indicate what I did. The captain always just kind of nods and continues what he was doing. As the FOM clearly states, we all know that is the exception and not the rule.

Correct me if I am wrong on any of this. Aside from a few things like this (if true) I still think that your way of doing operational business at NWA was stellar.

LA Base meeting notes stated that the company stated it was "Dead for now."

Whatever that means.

Of course there are a ton of things going on, and the can hit delete or execute on any of them at any time. It is always good to have options.

At the roadshow they said its being looked at however was at least 2 years away.

I knew I could count on you guys.... Safe flying!

Sitting on alert for the MOAGS... Mother of all Green Slips in MEM....:D

TC

You might want to divide by the 12,000+ pilots we have however, or the -other- 1,500+ are going to be plenty ****ed off when they get nada!

AND...add in the 305 new hires too, they'll want some of that cheese!

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Why Guam?

Very simplistically: NRT slots and monopoly bustin'. Also, many widebodies can overfly NRT and go direct to their served market.

ASA has an asian operation, why not DAL? I would guess tho that if DAL can do what they wanted with the Guam op, without ever dedicating actual resources to it, that is what they will do.

In the AF, it was: study, tiger team, study, expert panel, OBE.

Herk,

I don't think SOPA/SMAC quite that rigid. As I recall:

1.) All FO's knew how to load the FMS. They would do it if the captain wasn't there when they got to the airplane and the paperwork was ready, which was most of the time. :)

2.) The FO's did not know the overhead panel preflight. That is true.

3.) I think the captains and the F/O's could do the exterior walkaround after the captains started getting signed off to do them during OE. The captains just never did them, unless the F/O wasn't there or if it was 75 degrees in Miami and the Dolphins Cheerleaders were in the window taking pictures of the airplane. (See how I worked that in for you 80 and ftb?)

4.) The FP moving the flap handle and gear handle. I can't imagine what the NFP would be doing that is so important that he wouldn't be in the loop enough to be able to do it. I know what you are talking about though. But, I never had to go around because of SOPA/SMAC rigidity.

I agree with you in that SOPA/SMAC was pretty cool. Once you got checked out on an airplane, it was no time before you felt right at home. We'll see how things go at the New Delta. But, from what I see, like what many of the South guys said, they are slowly changing some things, like they said they would. What starts off with being able to book jumpseats online and not having to load in 9 million digits into Delta Crew, might end with 2 releases being printed and a return to some form of SOPA/SMAC being employed. I hope so. :D

New K Now

I think that refers to the pilots on LTD(652), full time MLOA(432), furlough bypass (330), HLB/HLD/PLA(26) and in management on different bonus plans Dickson, Graham, etc.??? (21).

ttl: 12136- 1471= 10,665 eligible for employee profit sharing checks (I am guessing, could be wrong on all counts.)

Using MEC Update 08-04 and this yr avg. salary of $142k...A pilot who made 100k would get a payout (as of now):

$30m / 10665 = $2813

$100k pilot would get 100/142 of the average = $1981 or 1.981% of earnings.

You get 12%(adjusted for targeting) of PS added to your DC/DPSP.

The "effective" percentage is 2.218% of your income.(as of today)

Lets hope for a big profit in Q3, and maybe a breakeven/small gain in Q4.

OK, Shiznit that too some work. Now do it times three. (Assuming like quarters going forward) :D