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They could also create additional efficiencies by:

3) Have more than one individual for a 12000 plot airline schedule OE and train more LCP's. Seems like a month from GS to OE is pretty common.

Talking to my buds that have gone the ER recently the OE scheduling is not a best practice. I know it is a huge fleet and they need both domestic and int'l legs but it has to get more efficient.

boog123

12-09-2010 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 913491)

The other one is to have the carrier perform less of it flying. (Outsourcing)

Therefore, everyone needs to keep their eye on the ball and not sell one ounce of scope. It is a lot easier for DAL to only train the top end well the bottom end gets handed to DCI. If that does not happen, the need here for pilots becomes great.

Is it less airframes since the merger?

Wilbur Wright

12-09-2010 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 913498)

3) Have more than one individual for a 12000 plot airline schedule OE and train more LCP's. Seems like a month from GS to OE is pretty common.
:cool:

It depends on your fleet. On the 330 side everyone has been getting OEs 2-4 days after GS. My wife wasn't thrilled that after 31 days of school I only had 2 days off before going on a 7 day trip.

acl65pilot

12-09-2010 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by boog123 (Post 913513)

Is it less airframes since the merger?

Yes, since the date of "Constructive Notice." the number of DCI airframes has fallen by more than 60 jets. I suspect those in 44 will see more about this from their Sec/Tres.

I was referring more to 76 seat and above. It is my assertion that the 76 seat and below market will be a very small segment of the domestic lift by 2020. Keep the line where it is at, and DCI will shrink appreciably.

acl65pilot

12-09-2010 06:13 AM

They will schedule OE's as quick as they can. The TOE's are a little different in the 7ER since many of the LCA's that used to have International Trips on their lines no longer do. This requires either waiting until the ones that do have an open rotation, or buying a rotation off of someone else so that the other LCA, who does not have an Atlantic Crossing can now have one where he can perform IOE on.

The requirement of four crossings, and where the LCA"s are flying at any given time are what limits the system, not the schedulers.

forgot to bid

12-09-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by caddis (Post 913504)

Talking to my buds that have gone the ER recently the OE scheduling is not a best practice. I know it is a huge fleet and they need both domestic and int'l legs but it has to get more efficient.

If its the same guy that ran it in 08 then it by far is not a best practice, that's putting it nicely.

tsquare

12-09-2010 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 913288)

I flew with two fNWA guys last month that are planning on pulling the cord next year. Both former military with military retirements. They said it is about breakeven on narrowbody pay to stay past 62.5 if you have a military retirement with healthcare options.

I've only flown with one guy who wished he could work until he was 70 (serious :confused:) other than that most guys really want out and as soon as it makes financial sense to them, I think they'll be gone before 65.

Talk is cheap.

tsquare

12-09-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 913292)

Maybe I'm missing the sarcasm in your post but.. Seriously???

The public doesn't care one bit about the low time pilots at the regional level. Most of them don't even know the difference. And as much as the average American says he "hates outsourcing", he would much rather have (fill in the blank) call center in Bangalore than shell out more cash for a service provided.

The public is not interested in the decline of the piloting profession... period. ALPA certainly didn't help matters by refusing to bring the low time issue front and center after the Colgan accident.

Ya beat me to it... good post.

tsquare

12-09-2010 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 913318)

That my friend is the end game, never forget it.

And desired by whom?

johnso29

12-09-2010 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 913455)

Sweet-time to pull out the Festivus tie. :)