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I've heard there is upwards of 1000 NWA guys that will hit certain triggers that might make it more advantageous for them to retire next year. Not sure how many would actually do it but the numbers that are floated are for much larger retirement rates potentially.

I just flew with a FNW pilot and asked him about this. He used to be on the 747-400 and flew with all of the senior guys. Anyways, he indicated that the red book / green book hatred runs pretty deep. I guess that the green book guys are just getting on the 747 (or within the last few years) and are staying around (despite almost working for free because of their retirements) hoping to block the red book guys off the 747 until the DL/NW fences fall in four years so that the former Delta guys can bid the airplane and keep the old red book guys out of it.

At least that's how he explained it. Nothing like working for free just out of spite.

RockyBoy

12-08-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 913302)

Out of those 194, 109 of them were PRIPs.

Thanks PG. I figured out there were 215 total but didn't know how many were in 2009 and 2010.

acl65pilot

12-08-2010 03:50 PM

About 20 or so backed out of the PRIP after it closed.

nwaf16dude

12-08-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 913320)

Sadly, I would not be surprised if that were true.

iceman49

12-08-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 913320)

I have no doubt that some guys habored some unjustified hatred, but for the most part there was very few of them...and it wouldn't have mattered if they had got everything they wanted, they still would not have liked it. I would really doubt the blocking thing...to each their own.

caddis

12-08-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 913288)

I've only flown with one guy who wished he could work until he was 70 (serious :confused:) other than that most guys really want out and as soon as it makes financial sense to them, I think they'll be gone before 65.

Rocky if he was a MSP Captain I think I may have flown with him recently. He is an over 60 guy that thinks we are overstaffed because he does not get green slips. He also flies 90+ hours a month... after I told him to get a life the rest of the trip was very quiet.

buzzpat

12-08-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 913275)

Random AE thought... Seems to be alot of 737s in DTW today. Any rumors of rebasing them here?

DTW is almost all I do these days out of LAX. In fact, going there again tomorrow from SFO. Makes sense. Might be a good place for the CVG 73s to go if/when we ever close that base.

scambo1

12-08-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 913302)

Out of those 194, 109 of them were PRIPs.

Aw c'mon PG perp just sounds better.

Ferd149

12-08-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 913332)

I agree. I've sat through my share of red/green discussions but I can only think of one guy that would be this bitter..........and he is on the A330.

I think most of the over 60 fNWA guys are still here because of the price of health insurance post retirement.

JMHO

forgot to bid

12-08-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 913360)

I think most of the over 60 fNWA guys are still here because of the price of health insurance post retirement.

JMHO

I wonder if the company takes that into account nowadays where changing that might cause more guys to leave then can be replaced if the school house is full for the forseeable future. Just a thought.

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