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RockyBoy 08-04-2010 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 850909)
No, not a yellow, because I'll be on call for those days. But you can't put in recovery preferences which, I think, means I can show trips that are open in priority order. I've only been doing the reserve thing for about 7 months now and haven't done it before. Just wondering if it actually works or not, and how it's done if it does.

Buzz,

If you want a specific trip out of the 5 then you need to put in a yellow slip with the rotation number you want. They will only look at your recovery preferences if you are re-routed and subject to the 23K recovery rules. The computer will spit out which 5 guys are getting the 5 trips then the scheduler will see the yellow slip requests from those 5 guys and honor those requests based on who is the most senior out of the 5. The only time I submit a yellow slip is in the exact situation you are in and I really want a specific rotation since I know I'm getting called anyways. The yellow slip preferences work to get me the trip I want 90% of the time.

buzzpat 08-04-2010 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 850918)
Buzz,

If you want a specific trip out of the 5 then you need to put in a yellow slip with the rotation number you want. They will only look at your recovery preferences if you are re-routed and subject to the 23K recovery rules. The computer will spit out which 5 guys are getting the 5 trips then the scheduler will see the Yellos Slip requests from those 5 guys and honor those requests based on who is the most senior out of the 5.

Ahh, got it Rocky, thanks! I'm such a nube at this reserve stuff.

DAL73n 08-04-2010 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 850890)
Yikes... I'd be furloughed till about 2025 with that model.

I remember someone talking about how the 319 was a plane built around niche markets like Hayden, CO and stuff like that?? I'm sure having 737s on property is killing the credibility of the smallest bus. Last time I XCMd on a transcon, the 737-800 was sipping on about 5500 pounds an hour about an hour after a 160,000 pound plus takeoff. The 737 is a killer machine whether it's high frequency (LUV) or transcon. As long as those things keep showing up as replacements for the 319 I might be cool with that (sux to loose such a worthy cockpit layout). Giving up the 100 seat market, that's not even negotiable in my opinion.

Also, I've been told the 737-700 doesn't make money domestically - we only have it for high altitude (Quito) South America Flying. Remember,without the DC-9, A-319 and 737-700 the smallest a/c on property is the MD-88 - which I believe holds 144? and the -90 which holds 150. Long way from these down to a 76 seat RJ to right size for various markets - SCOPE, SCOPE, SCOPE!!!!!!!!!

DAL4EVER 08-04-2010 03:48 PM

Wall St. Journal reports:

Delta Air Lines Inc. is poised to get the green light for a $1.2 billion overhaul of its outdated terminals at JFK...

I don't have the online version so maybe someone could post the rest of the article.

firstmob 08-04-2010 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 850941)
Wall St. Journal reports:

Delta Air Lines Inc. is poised to get the green light for a $1.2 billion overhaul of its outdated terminals at JFK...

I don't have the online version so maybe someone could post the rest of the article.

Agree , maybe something good is coming our way.

sailingfun 08-04-2010 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 850890)
Yikes... I'd be furloughed till about 2025 with that model.

I remember someone talking about how the 319 was a plane built around niche markets like Hayden, CO and stuff like that?? I'm sure having 737s on property is killing the credibility of the smallest bus. Last time I XCMd on a transcon, the 737-800 was sipping on about 5500 pounds an hour about an hour after a 160,000 pound plus takeoff. The 737 is a killer machine whether it's high frequency (LUV) or transcon. As long as those things keep showing up as replacements for the 319 I might be cool with that (sux to loose such a worthy cockpit layout). Giving up the 100 seat market, that's not even negotiable in my opinion.

You can relax. Thats not the fleet plan or the model. They are buying up to 60 MD 90's and just put online a bunch of 700's in the last two years. They are also taking delivery of some 737-800's that were going to be sold. I think two in the last quarter and perhaps more next Spring.
Having said that they have no interest in a 100 seat aircraft. I doubt they will ask to fly one outsourced even as a throw away in their contract opener. They simply don't want the aircraft. The last 100 seat aircraft Delta ordered was in 1983.

johnso29 08-04-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 850879)
Not sure if you are related to NewK or not, but you are spot on. From my understanding the 319 was essentially a weight reduction that came along to better fit the US market, the 320 initially had range/payload issues. Whereas the 737-7/8/9 was better answered by Boeing (something else I thought I'd never admit). I can honestly see management having a beef with the 319, if my memory serves me correctly that's one less seat than a DC-9-50? Now contrasting the lease on a 319 to that of a 737-8 transcon machine with how many more seats? I agree the assault on the 100 seat market is already in play, the question remains as to what and who will replace that market. Is the E190 and 195 really that bad of a machine when considering range and payload? Is it worse than the Dc-9 with flaps zero 6% overspeed takeoffs in the summer? The APU, cost to operate and customer experience has got to be better. How about 900 vs. The E-series? Rode the 900 from DTW to DFinW, nice machine.

The CRJ900 is very uncomfortable. The exit seats are the worst. I'm only 5'10 and the seat must be 5 inches from the back of my knees. The headrests don't even stay, they just slide right back down. The tray tables in 1st class unfold out of the armrest, & they're such pieces of crap they droop in your lap like a v so your drink constantly slides to the center and tries to spill. The whole thing reminds me of a tyco toy.

johnso29 08-04-2010 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 850906)
Hey guys, reserve question. I know I'm going to get another trip on Friday. There are 5 in open time and we're -1 available out here. So, I put in my recovery preferences for trips. Does the computer process those or is it done by the schedulers? Thanks.

Can someone answer this? The reserve coverage chart accounts for trips in open open time, yes? In other words, if it shows 12 trips in open time and -2 reserves for the day does that mean there are 10 reserves available that day?

DLpilot 08-04-2010 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 850909)
No, not a yellow, because I'll be on call for those days. But you can't put in recovery preferences which, I think, means I can show trips that are open in priority order. I've only been doing the reserve thing for about 7 months now and haven't done it before. Just wondering if it actually works or not, and how it's done if it does.

Recovery preferences are for 23K. You need to go under the Reserve On Call Preference Qualifiers/Yellow Slip. The computer will process it. You always want to have qualifiers in when you are on reserve or pick a specific trip. You can't do both though.

Cycle Pilot 08-04-2010 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by DAL4EVER (Post 850941)
Wall St. Journal reports:

Delta Air Lines Inc. is poised to get the green light for a $1.2 billion overhaul of its outdated terminals at JFK...

I don't have the online version so maybe someone could post the rest of the article.

I heard from a pretty reliable source that an announcement about JFK will occur within a week.


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