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acl65pilot 04-15-2010 11:52 AM

I never understood the Plan Path Pilot methodology. The idea makes sense, but only to a certain level.

They need to stick all of the procedures in Vol one like a traditional POH. Having some of them in the QRH is just weird to me. I like the Vol one with all of the procedures and VOl two for the expanded system stuff. The airway manual is basically a Master Ops Specs :eek:

forgot to bid 04-15-2010 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 796538)
If Europe and volcanic ash is to the left, New K Now is flying ========> to the right......



......No. No wait. This is a DC-9 we are talking about. I WILL fly to Europe.




(You just can't beat this one. Who posted this the first time?)

Very good New.

We have only one connection left to the past, the DC-9, and thus we are all hanging on a thread depending on the pilots of the DC-9 to take the lead against the never ending battle for truth, justice, and the previous airline pilot way of life. So just remember New as you look at the man in the mirror, ask him to change our ways because no message could have been any clearer that if we wanna make this world a better place you, New, gotta get it right, while you got the time and the 9.

The gratitude of every home of an airline pilot, in our country, and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to the men and women of the DC-9 who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and track errors, are turning the tide of the world war on airline pilots by their prowess and their devotion. Never in the airline field was so much owed by so many to so few. All our hearts go out to the DC-9 pilots, whose brilliant actions we see with our own eyes day after day as they fight for a return of the days where airline pilots were overpayed, oversexed and underworked.

Thank you, and God Bless New and the DC-9!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...234/salute.jpg

acl65pilot 04-15-2010 12:04 PM

Hey FtB, Do you do parties? :D

newKnow 04-15-2010 12:24 PM

Nevermind. I'm sure they have it figured out. :D

acl65pilot 04-15-2010 12:33 PM

They do, we do not :eek:

georgetg 04-15-2010 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 796479)
I beleive that everyone wishes that were true. I would love to buy a fleet of 737/320's or the like and do all of that flying, who wouldn't? I have tried to explain the reasoning behind the decision and I guess we can shoot the messenger. So be it.

Given the Alaska Marketing agreement in section one, the solution that also poses issues is a merger. Other than that, do you think that you are going to buy the company off on this deal? Not likely.

Push for a percentage of that revenue. Push for limits on the code. Those are ways to solve that. I do not like them taking more of our flying, just like you. Go read their agreement in our section one, and offer solutions!

here's my solution:
let's start putting together our SLI team and get the process rolling

based on RAs recent comments there is no doubt in my mind we'll be merging with AK

It's a no brainer business case: AK has 1B cash on hand and a market cap of 1.4B that's 2-3 777s to buy an entire airline and we already have passed the FTC anticompetitive test with our JV

my guess is RA is stalling for cover from the UAL-XXX merger.
Also we will be inflicting maximum pain on AA because AK-AA are also codeshare partners...

Cheers
George

newKnow 04-15-2010 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 796578)
Very good New.

We have only one connection left to the past, the DC-9, and thus we are all hanging on a thread depending on the pilots of the DC-9 to take the lead against the never ending battle for truth, justice, and the previous airline pilot way of life. So just remember New as you look at the man in the mirror, ask him to change our ways because no message could have been any clearer that if we wanna make this world a better place you, New, gotta get it right, while you got the time and the 9.

The gratitude of every home of an airline pilot, in our country, and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to the men and women of the DC-9 who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and track errors, are turning the tide of the world war on airline pilots by their prowess and their devotion. Never in the airline field was so much owed by so many to so few. All our hearts go out to the DC-9 pilots, whose brilliant actions we see with our own eyes day after day as they fight for a return of the days where airline pilots were overpayed, oversexed and underworked.

Thank you, and God Bless New and the DC-9!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...234/salute.jpg


Hilarious!!! Both you and 80 need your own show. :D

acl65pilot 04-15-2010 12:48 PM

George, I beleive you are correct in more way than one.

AS has their own merger committee and formed it about a year ago. I know a guy on the committee and he thought that it was for us. FWIW.

As for the A code. It is capped, and they cannot add anymore code share flights to feed JAL with the AMR deal. It was part of our deal. What they have it what they got.

nwaf16dude 04-15-2010 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 796572)
I never understood the Plan Path Pilot methodology. The idea makes sense, but only to a certain level.

They need to stick all of the procedures in Vol one like a traditional POH. Having some of them in the QRH is just weird to me. I like the Vol one with all of the procedures and VOl two for the expanded system stuff. The airway manual is basically a Master Ops Specs :eek:

I thought I had a decent understanding of the manuals after initial. (insert laughter here) Then I started OE... My LCA played "guess which manual" all the way from ATL to LAX and back. I think my batting average was was below .300. Got to be pretty frustrating.

acl65pilot 04-15-2010 01:08 PM

I am one of those guys that had read most of that crap cover to cover, I know where stuff is and how to find it. On my first TOE on the ER I played that game for most of the crossing. If were are here and go lost com, what procedures will you use. Will you cross, etc. Great drill, but man it can get to be a cat and mouse game as you are crossing FIR's very quickly in Europe. Great learning experience, but yep we need to do a little work on this and that.

See Nu, that is me complaining about manuals :D


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