Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 796356)

Worldflight is still running today. Compass and Mesaba use it for a lot of thingd that the Delta systems don't provide to their feeders.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 796505)

newKnow vs. the volcano, 2010 edition.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 796361)

T Square, I thought you were on the 767. The Delta 767 landing checklist consist of 3 items. Not sure how much shorter you can make it.

Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 796509)

Worldflight (Jepp) is being used to enhance and renovate FPS2, and I would imagine that it is being used today extensively since FPS2 is not as nimble.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 796324)

I don't know if you are a captain or not, but I will tell you this: When I checked out a few years back, the In Command class (knife and fork school for new captains) got a visit from Greg Riggs who was at the time the Counsel General at DAL. After his little talk, I didn't EVER want to turn off the seat belt light. It's no red herring. It's very very real, and there are lawsuits. Can you imagine the financial liability to DAL if there is ever a procedural misstep that Boeing did not sanction and resulted in injury or worse? Now since we are using BA procedures and operations manuals, it's all on them. I really liked the DAL manuals we had before the BA change.. probably like you like the NWA manuals better: things were easy to find... they were more logical.. etc etc... But the fact is that all lawyers suck and they make the rules so we all have to deal with it.. unfortunately.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 796516)

Yeah I am... I think the checklists are fine as they are, but I was trying to use an example.. and failed miserably apparently..

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 796526)

I tell you the thing I find miserable on the checklist, tangent here, but I wish the Runway, Departure, First Fix could be for it to be briefed at the gate and then at the current location of the checklist for the FO to call out as it is shown on the FMS and the Captain to say "as previously briefed". Or something along those lines because the way it works now can be with many people extremely clumsy with an airplane in motion. Not unsafe. Just clumsy. And if something changes then it should be briefed after the change.

Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 796525)

If you are saying that using BA procedures and manuals moves a substantial part of the liability to the manufacturer, why are we using Boeing style manuals on Airbus? Certainly some other reason like commonality between fleets...

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 796505)

Oh, the irony after various jokes about what sort of "unplanned" things may happen that cause us not to make a profit...


edit: you beat me to it, Scoop!


We just need to put some DC-9 captains in the planes and send them over there. They'll get the job done.


newKnow vs. the volcano, 2010 edition.