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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 857403)
So ACL, not saying this will happen, but if DAL wanted out of 100% of all of it's DCI contracts could a 2012 PWA with no DCI scope language end DCI overnight?
What really should be written in a PWA is for there to be no "New" or renegotiated nor extended DCI contracts. In would need to read that all DCI ASA's would terminate and not be renewed nor renegotiated, nor new ones be agreed to. That way DAL can in good faith fulfill their responsibilities of all of these contracts. The beauty of doing it this way means if a DCI operator does not meet a metrics or any other bar that is set forth in these ASA's, DAL has to hold them accountable because letting them go and redefining these contract to "look past" or "agree to" these metrics not being met would be an amendment which would be in breach on the PWA agreement stated above. Make sense? :eek: |
Originally Posted by LeineLodge
(Post 857408)
Just make sure you can look back and find 8 hours rest from the END of the duty period. LC reserve is NOT rest (not duty, but not rest - domestic) so you will not be legal for many assignments. That's a big reason why LC allows for 12 hours to report. That 12 hours is designed to cover all rest issues (including compensatory) so you can be legal for any assignment. If you choose to use it to commute then so be it, until the rest rules are ammended.
Just be careful and keep an eye on your duty/rest limits. I've caught a few things that were somehow missed by the computer. |
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 857409)
ACL,
I'm not suggesting that our CEO should publicly "belittle" DCI. Yes, that would be dumb. But constantly crowing about it and making proclamations about how it is equal to mainline... well that's just misleading at best, irresponsible at worst, and certainly doesn't give me any warm and fuzzy feelings that Delta is trying to back off with outsourcing. You bring up an excellent point about DAL management having done everything they can to "blur the lines" between DCI and mainline. They've done a good job of blurring those lines to the point where most of our customers don't realize they are not on a Delta flight. So when things go bad on those flights, Delta gets all the blame for it. We are running off customers and that's a hard thing to quantify. I have sat next to many frequent flyers who flat out told me they are booking around DCI. I think it happens more than you are giving it credit for. DAL88; It is a gray area. Many of the High Mileage fliers are too committed to DAL to leave, so they may book around. DAL is giving many fliers the option to by adding 88's to many medium gauge destinations. I am sure there are some that have left, and we gain customers that have left other airlines as well. Of note, the 100 seat jet will be the determining factor in the fate of DCI. If we sell it, DCI will have a renewed sense of importance for the next two decades. We keep it, and I believe that DCI will be all but gone within ten years for the reasons I stated in my initial post. It is as I have said about whipsaw, but more importantly where the cost allocation hits for the jet. DAL will not want all of the new metal needed over the next 20 years to be financed by out bottom line. Make no mistake it is a business decision. Of note on your first point. Our CEO is the leader of "all" of Delta, not just mainline. He needs to sell all of it. I would assume that any drive to reduce DCI would be an internal initiative and not one that would be waged in the public eye. It is simply bad business for someone as visible as a CEO of a 30 billion dollar a year company to do anything like that. Some things in my opinion should not be taken personally and this article in Sky is one of them. At the end of the day, D-ALPA has exclusivity with DAL, and we are the ones that determine who flies what. Everything else imo is eyewash. |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 857450)
No. There will always be a place for RJ "feed" in the system, but some of the "smaller" RJ markets can be served just fine by mailine.
Smaller markets such as: SLC-SFO SLC-SAN JFK-ORD CVG-PHL I could go on here for hours, but I think the point is obvious - RJs are needed on some routes, on others, not so much. Scoop DAL seems to be seeing that to. We are now finally adding 9's and 88's to cities like PFN, BHM etc. We also need to add them to cities like TLH, YYZ, YUL, OMA, ICT, and more. Yes we could go on for hours! :eek: |
Originally Posted by Chente
(Post 857475)
Not deviating. Thanks for the suggestion though. I'll try changing it to something else and if not call the CPSC. That's crazy that the computer knows when you're scheduled to come to work!
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
(Post 857465)
Thats exactly what they told us in Indoc.
Also, they are working on their 2011 budget and the need to hire more pilots in 2011. TYG Correct, and that is what is "know" and does not consider the rumors or other uptick possibilities. I know looking at block hr requirements for 2011 we could easily hire double what we have already had, but those numbers are not finalized and until they are it is a moving target. Here is a too a continual uptick and constant need for new blood! :) |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 857498)
Of note on your first point. Our CEO is the leader of "all" of Delta, not just mainline. He needs to sell all of it. I would assume that any drive to reduce DCI would be an internal initiative and not one that would be waged in the public eye. It is simply bad business for someone as visible as a CEO of a 30 billion dollar a year company to do anything like that.
I hope all that you are saying comes true. But I get concerned when I see them go out of their way to tout all the investment and effort they are putting into DCI. The way they talk about it just doesn't sound like something that's on its way out. In fact, it sounds like the opposite to me. |
DAL88, I do not like the fact that we just signed another 10 year deal with TSH, but the ASA agreement runs for the same duration.
With a decade of commitment you are darn right they are going to try and dress it up. That is a lot of time to do a so so job with that product. It is here for that duration, and unless legislation prohibits this type of agreement it will be here for at least than time frame. I do not want DCI to bring DAL down so I do not have any issue with DCI getting jet ways, keeping their planes nice, updating the interiors etc. As we both agree many of our customers see it as DAL so if it looks like crud, they are going to assign that opinion to DAL, are they not? |
Winford and ST ATL crew room update
Not sure if any of this info is breaking, but WS and ST just did a crew room update in ATL. Some of their points were:
-AE first week in Sept. and another in Jan. -Due to an increase in flying expect to see the following on the Sept AE: +20 777 crews +20 747 crews + ?? 7er crews all over -Jan AE A330 coming to ATL. Maybe Jan? ATL 757 to convert to ER May see 320s/747s in ATL in the next 6-12 months (he said historically ATL flys all equipment and would expect to see those here in the next 6-12) A330 for sure. -ST talked about importance of getting first flight of the day out of ATL (usually around 50 flights) -If you call for MX within 20 minutes of push that is coded as a flight ops delay -We can get 3 MD90's for the cost of 1 737-800 Guys asked a bunch of questions but nothing earth shattering. |
Originally Posted by Dirty
(Post 857511)
Not sure if any of this info is breaking, but WS and ST just did a crew room update in ATL. Some of their points were:
-AE first week in Sept. and another in Jan. -Due to an increase in flying expect to see the following on the Sept AE: +20 777 crews +20 747 crews + ?? 7er crews all over -Jan AE A330 coming to ATL. Maybe Jan? ATL 757 to convert to ER May see 320s/747s in ATL in the next 6-12 months (he said historically ATL flys all equipment and would expect to see those here in the next 6-12) A330 for sure. -ST talked about importance of getting first flight of the day out of ATL (usually around 50 flights) -If you call for MX within 20 minutes of push that is coded as a flight ops delay -We can get 3 MD90's for the cost of 1 737-800 Guys asked a bunch of questions but nothing earth shattering. |
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