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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 868227)

PS. I'm not bidding anything anyway!!!:D

Hey Denny, I'm not either. Do we have to put in ANYTHING? Or just a one entry AE with where we are at now?

Ferd

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Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 868115)

I hear you guys but I'm willing to bet it turns out differently. You've seen many more AEs than me so I may be naive but here is why I disagree:

1)I'm fairly junior and I got into SLC on the last AE.

2)DALS pilots tend to over value DALS products and bases compared to how DALN pilots actually feel. That being said, your perception that its going to create a North wave is a little off. Yall said that about ATL and that never materialized, more the opposite.

3)Senior North pilots can already hold the ER or better(330/744) in SEA/MSP/DTW. Basically they would have to bid down to go to SLC. I really don't see it, especially with all the openings.

I may be way off base but we will see in a few weeks.

I sure hope your right and I'm wrong. FYI, when the 320 came to SLC half the 90 category could not hold the 320 due to senior North guys coming in. So some North guys do want something other than DTW and MSP. There were close to 50 North guys on both the A and B side that came into SLC with the 320. ATL has not seen an influx becuase you need vacancies to get there and there have been very few vacancies the last two bids. If they were to completely rebid the 88 and 767/ER categories in ATL, I'd bet you would see alot of North guys heading down south.

In the end, this is a good thing it might just sting a little more for some of the SLC guys. I'm happy to be flying the 320 and not the 88, and it will be nice to have an ER category to get a little international stuff down the road without commuting.

Look at the 19May10 AE awards on DeltaNet.
There are some examples. CVG7ER closed. SEA7ER opened new.
Here are 3 guys that MD'd to the new category.

Awarded Cat============================== Previous Cat
SEA7ERCAPT 0333856 Name redacted-- 03492 M CVG7ERCAPT
SEA7ERCAPT 0938722 Name redacted-- 02242 M CVG7ERCAPT

SEA7ERCAPT 0872798 Name redacted-- 01535 M CVG7ERCAPT

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 868227)

Okay, I'll give you that you might be able to displace into the category BUT a new category with no one in it WILL be awarded in senority order whether it is by AE or any displacement. How's that!

100% correct. The SLC 767 guys will get it via an MD if their seniority can hold it and everyone else will get it with an AE if their seniority can hold it. Lots of confusion over an issue we have seen twice in the last two bids.

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 868232)

Sorry for the controversy. My lips were moving!!:D

Denny

No controversy. This stuff is complex and confusing.
Like PG said -- call the office to get the real answer.

(I feel like I'm James Spader) :eek:

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Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 868234)

Hey Denny, I'm not either. Do we have to put in ANYTHING? Or just a one entry AE with where we are at now?

Ferd

Ferd,

If you do not want to bid anything for an AE and stay put, do not put in anything. I always have a MD in place just in case. I've never had it used when I didn't know that I was going to get displaced but it's just a catchall. As others stated earlier, when you are awarded something on a bid, all your preferences are deleted (including VD/MD preferences.

Sorry I don't know the answer to your other question other than to say "to be on the safe side I'd take the whole thing." But I don't know for sure.

Denny

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 868241)

No controversy. This stuff is complex.
Like PG said -- call the office to get the real answer.

(I feel like I'm James Spader) :eek:

I'm blamin' it on Mad Cow!!:D Yeah.......Yeah! That's the ticket......mad cow..... Thank Gawd Alan is there to bail me out again!!!:D

I'm where I'm going to be for the forseeable (sp?) future anyway. Unless I get displaced.......

Denny

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 868242)

Sorry I don't know the answer to your other question other than to say "to be on the safe side I'd take the whole thing." But I don't know for sure.Denny

Ok, cool. No AE and an MD back to MSP or SEA, perfect.

Yeah, what I'm think'en too. Plus, if I take it, maybe they'll want me to do a Saipan :cool:

Just trying to not take it home or through security to the bag room after the DH home. Like I said, just being lazy:D

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Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 868115)

Obviously you do not know about operation tidybowl!!!!:D

AE's suck. That is all.

:p :D