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capncrunch 09-13-2010 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 870052)
So that would mean that the guys that are getting bumped will end up back in the seats, which is counter to what the original post was saying. If I remember correctly MD's come before AE's right? I'm not in the category or bidding it. I'm just trying to figure out how many are coming East!

Nope. It goes AEs first then MDs since its a new category. Well, it always goes AEs first and usually they can only get the vacant seats but it is a new category so they are all vacant.

acl65pilot 09-13-2010 04:51 PM

They knew that most SLC 767 pilot may not hold the ER. That is not a surprise. Make sure you have your MD prefs up to date.

Going2Baja 09-13-2010 05:08 PM

On average...When do monthly bids come out? Do they wait till friday to post?

Baja.

Razorback flyer 09-13-2010 05:17 PM

Seems like they usually start to filter out by the 14th in the afternoon/evening - and most usually end up being out by the evening of the 15th. (A's first, then B's, and usually senior categories first, but not always.) Holiday and tightly staffed months can lag, though, and they're not required to be out until 1900 on the 17th (I believe.)

Razorback flyer 09-13-2010 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 869940)
Anyone have any guess (when they will close CVG?

If you asked 75% of the CVG pilots 2 weeks ago, they would have said it was going to happen on this AE. Most up here are convinced its comming, and that rumor is getting new fuel from all the airbus flying here (and the lack of an airbus base.) Personally, I think political promises will keep it open for the forseeable future. In the airlines,though, the forseeable future is only about 12 months (and that's when visibility is good!)

Xray678 09-13-2010 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 870056)
Guys,

This is a net positive bid. If guys are coming from all over the system to bid SLC - then there will plenty of positive movement elsewhere. SLC may go more senior, but only if other bases go more junior. Or am I missing something?


IMHO it's not right that a bunch of guys lose their seat when the flying will be cery much the same. The ER now contains a lot of domestic flying. Most of the routes flown by the new ER category will be the same stuff currently flown by the domestic category.

The company and union should have cut a deal so that the domestic 767 can be converted to the ER without a rebid. Just give everyone a TOE and move on.

Denny Crane 09-13-2010 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 870052)
So that would mean that the guys that are getting bumped will end up back in the seats, which is counter to what the original post was saying. If I remember correctly MD's come before AE's right? I'm not in the category or bidding it. I'm just trying to figure out how many are coming East!

Because SLC7ER is a new category it will be awarded in senority order. For those not in the SLC 767 domestic category, they will bid an AE. Those that are in the SLC 767 domestic category will bid a MD. Bottom line is that a new category with zero guys in it will be awarded in senority order.

Denny

PilotFrog 09-13-2010 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 870085)
IMHO it's not right that a bunch of guys lose their seat when the flying will be cery much the same. The ER now contains a lot of domestic flying. Most of the routes flown by the new ER category will be the same stuff currently flown by the domestic category.

The company and union should have cut a deal so that the domestic 767 can be converted to the ER without a rebid. Just give everyone a TOE and move on.

IMHO I agree. Especially when after the merger the 757 in DTW and MSP automatically became 7ER with no new category bid.

forgot to bid 09-13-2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 870085)
IMHO it's not right that a bunch of guys lose their seat when the flying will be cery much the same. The ER now contains a lot of domestic flying. Most of the routes flown by the new ER category will be the same stuff currently flown by the domestic category.

The company and union should have cut a deal so that the domestic 767 can be converted to the ER without a rebid. Just give everyone a TOE and move on.

I agree. Its too bad that the elimination of a category but not the aircraft or the base is not covered in some unique way.

I mean we won't see international and domestic seperate again but who is to say that you won't see ER and 764 blended? Or 764 and 777? Say ATL 765 and ATL 777 are merged into ATL 776?

RockyBoy 09-13-2010 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 870085)
IMHO it's not right that a bunch of guys lose their seat when the flying will be cery much the same. The ER now contains a lot of domestic flying. Most of the routes flown by the new ER category will be the same stuff currently flown by the domestic category.

The company and union should have cut a deal so that the domestic 767 can be converted to the ER without a rebid. Just give everyone a TOE and move on.

That would have been nice. We already took a big hit on the 90/320 conversion and now this. Basically we've had a bump and flush of the SLC base in the last three bids. 2/3 of the total positions have been open to bid by everyone. I'm not sure how they got around not doing that in DTW and MSP, but I think it had to do with the fact that they already did international flying in those categories so it was really a change in name only....kinda like the SLC and CVG stuff has been....but different I guess??


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