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Pineapple Guy 09-22-2010 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 874757)
"...We don't rock the boat at DAL?..." If that's a true, direct quote, your friend needs to expose this. Write an open letter, something. Not whisper campaigns with no attributable source: expose the guy.

He won't -- because I'm quite certain its not a direct quote. Or if it is, it is taken so far out of context as to defy reality. But then again, this is just another anonymous forum, where up is down and gravity doesn't really exist. :p

DAL330drvr 09-22-2010 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 874757)
"...We don't rock the boat at DAL?..." If that's a true, direct quote, your friend needs to expose this. Write an open letter, something. Not whisper campaigns with no attributable source: expose the guy.

This happened earlier this year, before he became the Chairman of the Neg. Committee. After his new appointment, it was brought up to the MEC Vice Chairman in person, I was there, but it never went anywhere. He supposedly attempted to set up a meeting that never materialized.

I was initially happy with the composition of the new Neg. Committee because of the overall seniority and positions they held, thinking that these guys are not going to sell the store because 3 of the 4 are going to be here for a while and are not CA's yet. Unfortunately, my positive view of the newly appointed committee was overshadowed by the Chairman's remark to my friend, "We don't rock the boat at DAL"

Sink r8 09-22-2010 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by DAL330drvr (Post 874794)
This happened earlier this year, before he became the Chairman of the Neg. Committee. After his new appointment, it was brought up to the MEC Vice Chairman in person, I was there, but it never went anywhere. He supposedly attempted to set up a meeting that never materialized.

I was initially happy with the composition of the new Neg. Committee because of the overall seniority and positions they held, thinking that these guys are not going to sell the store because 3 of the 4 are going to be here for a while and are not CA's yet. Unfortunately, my positive view of the newly appointed committee was overshadowed by the Chairman's remark to my friend, "We don't rock the boat at DAL"

OK, maybe I'm a dreamer here, but in my mind, in an activist supported by activist and educated members, this kind of thing wouldn't be left alone, to later become the object of unidentified webboard discussions. It would instead be something that would be brought up, in a civil manner, but probably at a union meeting, or via a public letter, or something of the kind. Whatever format it would take would offer the author of the quote a chance to explain himself or contest the quote.

I'd support any resolution demanding an explanation.

Part of the problem, of course, is that there ever are hardly any of us at any meeting, and so no valid resolution ever gets a second. In addition, I'm in the rank that believes that, in 2010, we can do better than inconvenient meetings in person. There is always... the internet.

Herkflyr 09-22-2010 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by DAL330drvr (Post 874735)
Carl,

I'm not willing to give anything up, the question should be, how much is our Neg. Committee willing to give up and that should worry all of us. The current Chairman of the Neg. Committee told a friend of mine, "We don't rock the boat at DAL", and the context was related to a direct violation of the PWA while he was the Scheduling Committee Chairman.

BOHICA for 2012. :D


That's pure horse doodoo from beginning to end. What we don't do at DAL is pursue pointless grievances when the contract states "A" and the pilot wishes that it stated "B". But I do know that the union annually recoups literally several million dollars of pay protection for pilots who were improperly bypassed for trip awards, premium pay, etc.

But sometimes the union also has to tell a guy he doesn't have a case...if he truly doesn't have one. There are plenty of times when a pilot indeed does have a case, and the scheduling and contract admin guys are usually all over it.

forgot to bid 09-22-2010 07:48 PM

I think its a little mean to pick on the AE computer system given its probably already done and its now got to be reveiwed by a lot of people and signed off by everbody in the GO from RA, SD, LM, Slow, Sailing, Sailing/Slow, Alfa, ACL will get a sneak peak, it will accidently be sent to Ferds delta email account but he never looks at it so he won't know and so on.

Just imagine if we were doing this like they did back in 1992:

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...id/temp-99.jpg

buzzpat 09-22-2010 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 874752)
Does anyone have an idea of when the results will be posted?

Monday?

I'm guessing Friday afternoon ATL time so that everybody will be going home when the bomb hits. That way, the phones don't start ringing until Monday and we've all had time to have a few drinks and simmer down.

buzzpat 09-22-2010 07:55 PM

[quote=bigdaddie;874711]You're dating yourself Buzz. /quote]

Actually, I tried dating myself for awhile and really didn't care for it. I was far too ego-centric, talked a lot with my hands, and didn't really want to communicate on the level that I was looking for. I was gone a lot, sort of anal about a lot of things, had a tendency to see life through the lens of a checklist. Just not spontaneous at all. In fact, I didn't really like myself....so I had to move on.

1234 09-22-2010 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=buzzpat;874883]

Originally Posted by bigdaddie (Post 874711)
You're dating yourself Buzz. /quote]

Actually, I tried dating myself for awhile and really didn't care for it. I was far too ego-centric, talked a lot with my hands, and didn't really want to communicate on the level that I was looking for. I was gone a lot, sort of anal about a lot of things, had a tendency to see life through the lens of a checklist. Just not spontaneous at all. In fact, I didn't really like myself....so I had to move on.

You say you talked a lot with your hands, ehh. :o

Boomer 09-22-2010 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 874876)
Slow, Sailing, Sailing/Slow

If you guys leaned on Slow and Sailing to get some nice avatar pictures they'd be easier to tell apart.

And if he/they pick the same picture...Busted. :D

Boomer 09-22-2010 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 874876)

Look at all those dark gray suits, but not one red tie in the bunch...


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