Flying Monkey

Not to start with, no. Nor do I ever want to be MSP based. We'll flow through on a 4 day, is the way I hear it.

Dash8widget

Since were talking about MD-90's; Whats with the pay scale? 757-767 same pay, A330-765 same pay, 737-700/800 same pay, A319/320 same pay, even 747-400 and 777 same pay, but the MD-88 and MD-90 have two different pay scales?? There must be a "good" reason for this, but I'm at a loss.

With the JCBA, DALPA took the opportunity to bring the 737-700 pay up the the 800. Why didn't they do the same with the 88?

Schwartz

NWA LOA 2006-10 was not signed by anyone but NWA & ALPA. If you can't comply with the LOA you can't have the airplanes.

LETTER 2006-10
(Feeder Carrier Hiring)
LETTER OF AGREEMENT
between
NORTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
and
THE AIR LINE PILOTS
in the service of
NORTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
as represented by
AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL
This Letter of Agreement is made and entered into in accordance with the provisions of Title II of the Railway Labor Act, as amended, by and between Northwest Airlines, Inc., (hereinafter referred to as the “Company”) and the Air Line Pilots in the service of Northwest Airlines, Inc. as represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, International (hereinafter referred to as “ALPA”).
WHEREAS, the Company and ALPA have agreed to certain modifications (the “Modifications”) of the NWA/ALPA Collective Bargaining Agreement (the “ALPA Agreement”) in furtherance of the Company’s effort to successfully restructure through the Chapter 11 bankruptcy process; and
WHEREAS, all such Modifications embodied in this Letter of Agreement and others to be executed on the same date as this Letter of Agreement, will, when executed, resulted in a revised ALPA Agreement (the “ALPA Restructuring Agreement”); and
WHEREAS, the Modifications embodied in this Letter of Agreement pertain to the agreement of the parties to provide for employment opportunities for laid off Company pilots at Feeder Carriers (as that term is defined in Section 1 B.7.c.(1) of the ALPA Restructuring Agreement) and employment opportunities at the Company for certain pilots of certain Feeder Carriers.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, the undersigned parties do hereby agree as follows:
A. Definitions.
1. “Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Domestic Air Carrier that is a Feeder Carrier (both as defined in Section 1 B.7.a. and Section 1 B.7.c.(1) of the Agreement) that has contracted with the Company to operate Qualifying Aircraft.
a. “Category 1 Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Participating Feeder Carrier that is an Affiliate of the Company.
b. “Category 2 Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Participating Feeder Carrier that is not an Affiliate of the Company and that operates Qualifying Aircraft that are owned, financed, leased, or sub-leased by the Company (not including the AVRO85 replacements at Mesaba Airlines).
c. “Category 3 Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Participating Feeder Carrier that is not an Affiliate of the Company and that operates Qualifying Aircraft that are not owned, financed, leased or sub-leased by the Company.
2. “Qualifying Aircraft” means a 51-76 seat aircraft as defined in Section 1.B. 7.c.(1) of the ALPA Restructuring Agreement.
3. “Eligible Furloughed Pilot” means a pilot whose name appears on the Feeder Carrier Opportunity List.
4. “New Position” means a (Captain or First Officer) position on a Qualifying Aircraft that is created at a Category 1 or Category 2 Participating Feeder Carrier as a result of a Participating Feeder Carrier’s taking delivery of, or announcing firm delivery of, Qualifying Aircraft after the effective date of the ALPA Restructuring Agreement. The number of New Positions at a Participating Feeder Carrier shall be determined without regard to whether pilots employed by the Participating Feeder Carrier are furloughed or remain on furlough.
5. “New Hire Position” means a New Pilot position at a Category 3 Participating Feeder Carrier.
6. “Backfill Position” means a position (Captain or First Officer) on a Qualifying Aircraft at a Participating Feeder Carrier that becomes open when an Eligible Furloughed Pilot vacates that position.
7. “Feeder Carrier Opportunity List” means the list maintained by the NWA MEC Membership Committee after review by all Participating Feeder Carriers pursuant to the terms of this Letter of Agreement.
B. Offers of Opportunity (Filling of Vacancies)
1. A Category 1 Participating Feeder Carrier shall make 100% of New Positions (Captain and First Officer) and 100% of Backfill Positions available to Eligible Furloughed Pilots.
2. A Category 2 Participating Feeder Carrier shall make 50% of New Positions (Captain and First Officer) and 100% of Backfill Positions available to Eligible Furloughed Pilots, subject to conditions and restrictions that provide for efficient and timely processing and hiring of such Eligible Furloughed Pilots.
3. The Company will provide enhanced opportunities for a laid off Company pilot to obtain pilot employment at a Category 3 Participating Feeder Carrier. As part of the negotiation of a new ASA agreement, or to amend an existing ASA agreement with a Category 3 Participating Feeder Carrier, the Human Resources Departments of the Company and such Feeder Carrier will develop a mutually acceptable program that will serve to provide laid off Company pilots who meet all other pilot hiring criteria defined by such Feeder Carrier with “additional weighting” relative to other pilot candidates not already employed by such Feeder Carrier. Nothing in this program will guarantee that any laid off Company pilot will be hired ahead of other candidates who are not laid off Company pilots.
C. This Letter of Agreement shall become effective on the date set forth in Paragraph O. of Restructuring Letter of Agreement Number 1 (Letter 2006-01), and shall run concurrently with the NWA/ALPA Collective Bargaining Agreement, including any status quo period under the Railway Labor Act.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned parties have signed this Letter of Agreement this 31st day of July, 2006.

For AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION
Duane E. Woerth President
NWA MEC Chairman
Chairman Negotiating Committee (Northwest)
Member Negotiating Committee (Northwest)
Member Negotiating Committee (Northwest)

For NORTHWEST AIRLINES, INC.
Vice President Labor Relations
Vice President Flight Operations/SOC
Director Flight Administration

acl65pilot

And in a nut shell is why it applies to all other DCI carrier as it was accepted whole by Delta management in to the JPWA.

mrvmo

Is this the longest thread ever on APC?

LeineLodge

This seems to read that Mesaba is the most protected of the now-DCI carriers, as their -900's don't seem to be part of this LOA.

Also, the way I read it is the "Feeder Carriers" have to have a vacancy for us to "flow" into. This wouldn't seem to be a flush scenario like Compass.

Has anyone been able to sift through this to determine which of the DCI carriers fall into which category??

johnso29

Actually, I think the Comair thread in the regional forum is.

forgot to bid

Okay, so if I was management at DAL, I'd buy those 90s that I've wanted for so long but that RA didn't want until I proved why I should have em'. Well, I have my reasons now and we can bring them and increase our fleet. But, that'd require hiring and what if fuel prices go back up? What happens to the 9s? They'd be parked and we'd have to really really furlough and thats going to be even more expensive if we don't sell off Compass soon.

Or I could still get those 90s and just park some 88s that we own for now since we don't really need the lift, if we need the lift we'll bring them out one by one up until we just can't staff them and then think about hiring.

Or if we ever have to reduce the fleet we can park the 9s and replace them with pending 737s, 76 seaters and this small infusion of 90s. And we can either sell CPZ, wait for attrition or bite the bullet and furlough, it just depends on my mood when dealing with all of these ahole pilots making a fortune with 3 houses and second wives in Brazil.

In the meantime, lets see what we can squeeze out of DALPA...
...

Evil enough?

RockyBoy

What they have now doesn't matter. This LOA only pertains to jets that are delivered AFTER Delta furloughs. What this does is protect us from downsizing mainline and growing DCI carriers. If we park the 9's and furlough 400 guys, then replace them with additional jets larger than 51 seats at DCI carriers, those additonal vacancies would be filled 100% by Delta furloughees if a Cat I affiliate and 50% if a Cat II affiliate. It isn't a flush scenario like Compass, and there are gonna be lots of questions if we ever have to use this. Would you be placed on the bottom of the seniority list, what year pay would you have, do you acrue longevity while flying there, etc. Hopefully this never becomes and issue, but we better not give it away because we all know what will replace the 9's when they start parking them.

shiznit

It is really good actually. I never understood the turkey and egg salad combo. That was just plain gross.