Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-16-2009, 05:49 PM
#4851
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
It's on the ALPA site under the JCBA attachements. Basically it says that if Delta furloughs pilots then furloughed pilots are entitled to vacancies at the DCI carriers if they get ADDITIONAL jets larger than 51 seats after we furlough. If it is a wholly owned carrier we get 100% of the Captain and FO vacancies. If it is not a wholly owned carrier, but leases jets from Delta, then we get 50% of the Captain and FO vacancies. So we would have the flowback to Compass, all the slots at Comair and Mesaba, 50% of the slots at ASA, SkyWest, Shuttle America, Pinnacle, and Mesa. This LOA was signed by NWA and only applied to Pinnacle and Mesaba when signed. It was incorporated into the JCBA with no changes so the way it reads, it now applies to all affiliate carriers of Delta. I guess the RJDC has a deal with ALPA national and they are saying it doesn't apply to Comair and ASA.
02-16-2009, 05:58 PM
#4852
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Oh here we go 
king of the rjdc 
king of the rjdc
02-16-2009, 06:11 PM
#4853
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Originally Posted by Joemerchant
It's in violation of the RJDC settlement agreement....
02-16-2009, 06:13 PM
#4854
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Originally Posted by Xray678
You don't think the cost to give all the 88 pilots in ATL differences training and an OE is pretty high?
02-16-2009, 06:15 PM
#4855
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So if we fly the 88/90 in ATL, does this mean you could start seeing some ATL trips that make it west of the mississippi and all the way to the mythical California via SLC?
02-16-2009, 06:33 PM
#4856
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
So I've heard and I don't doubt you. Is it only in violation for ASA and Comair? What about Skywest? Is this settlement anywhere that one could get a copy. It's not on the RJDC or ALPA site.
02-16-2009, 06:35 PM
#4857
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
Oh here we go king of the rjdc
king of the rjdc Unfortunately ALPA couldn't even abide by the settlement agreement....Not surprising to some of us.....
02-16-2009, 06:45 PM
#4858
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Oh no... the virus has spread to the "latest and greatest" thread. Let me set down the White Russian and get all of you some aspirin.
The RJDC no longer exists, the Corporation was dissolved. There is no such thing as the "RJDC settlement agreement."
There is the ALPA administrative policy manual. It requires that MEC's submit their scope openers to National, the MEC's attempt to resolve their differences and if they are unable to do so, ALPA National has the power to withhold the President's signature.
For the near future, that policy will be monitored by the (is NY the 6th District, I forgot) Federal Court. There is a Ford and Cooksey action, resolved as a class action which held ~2,500 Comair and ASA pilots. It is available, it is a public document, but I'm on the road and don't have the link with me.
ALPA is abiding, I know, the dude abides.... you all know that. Don't go all Walter on me.
Bottom line, no MEC can negotiate scope unilaterally. ALPA National is supposed to keep the kids from fighting. That has always been their job, they just have to be a better parent now.
But really, could we avoid a hijack of just this one thread. I like coming here to learn the latest and greatest, not a decades old fight between ALPA bros.
The RJDC no longer exists, the Corporation was dissolved. There is no such thing as the "RJDC settlement agreement."
There is the ALPA administrative policy manual. It requires that MEC's submit their scope openers to National, the MEC's attempt to resolve their differences and if they are unable to do so, ALPA National has the power to withhold the President's signature.
For the near future, that policy will be monitored by the (is NY the 6th District, I forgot) Federal Court. There is a Ford and Cooksey action, resolved as a class action which held ~2,500 Comair and ASA pilots. It is available, it is a public document, but I'm on the road and don't have the link with me.
ALPA is abiding, I know, the dude abides.... you all know that. Don't go all Walter on me.
Bottom line, no MEC can negotiate scope unilaterally. ALPA National is supposed to keep the kids from fighting. That has always been their job, they just have to be a better parent now.
But really, could we avoid a hijack of just this one thread. I like coming here to learn the latest and greatest, not a decades old fight between ALPA bros.
02-16-2009, 07:12 PM
#4859
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Originally Posted by beer
I am going to the 88 from the ER. I have looked in all the manuals and need some questions answered. Where do they put the crew rest seat in the 88? Where are the TVs with all the movies? What is the menu like on the domestic side? Forgot to Bid...do you know?
The 90 actually does have TV's to show movies and if your on an 88 the flight attendants provide the inflight entertainment.
The menu this month consists of pastrami on a roll with coleslaw, fruit and cheese, or some sort of salad that usually has brown lettuce. You can't have all three, so take your pick. Some months we have a shrimp salad which is good, but the FA's usually take the shrimp, stuff it in their bags, and take it home for their cats. If you get a salad with no shrimp, that is what has went down. Your gonna love it man!!
02-16-2009, 07:20 PM
#4860
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
The crew rest seat is the recliner on the front right side of the lounge in Atlanta. You can only use it between even number legs on 5-leg days. Typically that means you can use it on 90% of your trips.
The 90 actually does have TV's to show movies and if your on an 88 the flight attendants provide the inflight entertainment.
The menu this month consists of pastrami on a roll with coleslaw, fruit and cheese, or some sort of salad that usually has brown lettuce. You can't have all three, so take your pick. Some months we have a shrimp salad which is good, but the FA's usually take the shrimp, stuff it in their bags, and take it home for their cats. If you get a salad with no shrimp, that is what has went down. Your gonna love it man!!
The 90 actually does have TV's to show movies and if your on an 88 the flight attendants provide the inflight entertainment.
The menu this month consists of pastrami on a roll with coleslaw, fruit and cheese, or some sort of salad that usually has brown lettuce. You can't have all three, so take your pick. Some months we have a shrimp salad which is good, but the FA's usually take the shrimp, stuff it in their bags, and take it home for their cats. If you get a salad with no shrimp, that is what has went down. Your gonna love it man!!
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