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Gloopy;
I have the same sentiments you do. I would like to see the flying in house. We all know that the flying is allowed per the PWA. Maybe DAL will at some point opt out of the CS, but I see them acquiring them before that would happen.

I also agree that AK gets a ton of benefit. They have been able to recall almost all of their pilots by picking up routes we coincidentally drop the day before. On that side of it, I agree. The issue becomes growth. We have parked 9's moved jets on to new routes and AK has picked up the abandoned ones. Works well for them, and well for our corporation, but keeps the pilots of DAL flying the same amount of metal, but to different cities. That is the one glaring hole in the CS. It does not limit much.

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 882783)

Looks like I will be out sick for 3-6 months for surgery (ruptured Achilles tendon). Is it better to call in sick once for the whole time or bid everymonth and call in sick monthly. I do have vacation in Nov and Dec and don't really know how that works, Help! Thanks in advance

I would call the CPSC, and or ALPA to have them give you the exact course of action to take. This requires a requal due to you becoming non current.

I am guessing that you will run out of sick time, so LTS or disability will kick in. Let the pros guide you though this. They are all top notch.

On a personal note, get well soon. That is a bugger of a surgery.

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 882751)

I do get that. To a point. I actually like the philosophy behind getting cheap A/C now with no debt and leapfrogging the competition when the nextgen narrowbodies come out. (assuming thats what we do and not hire TSA/SKYW/RAH to do Mitsubishi/C Series for us). The AK CS is providing some great feed that was absent pre DAL + NWA. Much of that feed is pumping up the Pacific expansion...

Agree 100%

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 882751)

...I do see a symbiotic benefit to both DL and AK with this CS. However it is IMHO more to AK's benefit as we can do any one route that AK does, while conversely AK can not do many of the mutually beneficial routes that we do (without incuring massive costs and debt such as a large widebody fleet, etc)...

Even worse, they are two-timing us with AA. To them we are another additional partner, while to us they are the crucial lynchpin to our West-Coast feed...
That's played out in the numbers as we send more traffic to Alaska, then they send to us...

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 882751)

...However the reduction in any fleet or route because of the CS just isn't right (like the hit some fleets took to LA) and some routes like BOS-SEA seem like a no brainer for DL to do...

You hit the nail on the head. The whole outsourcing of Mexico flying (I think that was LOA 21) reduced LAX 73N flying significantly...

One more time for all to see:

http://gallery.me.com/georgetg/10046...26144460100011
Before Alaska JV (Red is Delta, Green is CS/JV)

http://gallery.me.com/georgetg/10046...12614189140001
After Alaska JV (Red is Delta, Green is CS/JV)

Cheers
George

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 882787)

Thanks for help. Yeah, not looking forward to it. Have talked to CPSC. They said I could do either. Just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience that could offer some adive. Will call ALPA.

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 882814)

Thanks for help. Yeah, not looking forward to it. Have talked to CPSC. They said I could do either. Just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience that could offer some adive. Will call ALPA.

I had knee surgery once about 8 years ago. I simply called in sick. If I went non current.......their problem. Never heard from the CP.

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 882734)

Nothing in the PWA...

They used to do it all the time until the new schedulers showed up about a year ago. That's around the time I first starting hearing that line. I'm guessing there's a schedulers' "handbook" with language to that effect.

The former schedulers seemed to be more "empowered" and able to "make it so..."

Cheers
George

No kidding.... And that ALPA has done zero to fix it is reason enought for DPA to succeed. In NYC we are sitting SC from 6:30am and for 24 hours because we are international pilots (that's two nights in a NYC hotel or crashpad for commuters pr. shortcall). First international push is in the afternoon, where is ALPA ??? I guess it doesn't matter for them cause only senior lineholder counts...

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Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 882783)

Call the pros like ACL suggested and here's for a speedy recovery..

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 882812)

One more time for all to see:

https://www.me.com/ro/georgetg/Galle...12614446010001
Before Alaska JV (Red is Delta, Green is CS/JV)

https://www.me.com/ro/georgetg/Galle...12614189140001
After Alaska JV (Red is Delta, Green is CS/JV)

Cheers
George

What exactly are we to see here? Did I miss something?

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Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 882827)

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Gotta agree with you on the int'l shortcall thing. 24 hr shortcall for 777 in nyc and there is NO push - no originator -because they can. Thanks for the help ALPA.

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 882833)

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Gotta agree with you on the int'l shortcall thing. 24 hr shortcall for 777 in nyc and there is NO push - no originator -because they can. Thanks for the help ALPA.

I'm an 7ER guy and I know it's even worse for the 777 and the 400 guys up there, something needs to be done or we need more sick time... (despite the fact I hate using it)