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lolwut 10-11-2010 07:11 AM

Would no hiring in 2011 (or until late 2011) mean nobody at all, or just no off the street hiring? Will flow-throughs continue to flow?

johnso29 10-11-2010 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 883017)
Just got done with my annual trip to the schoolhouse.
Had a short chat opportunity with a 4th floor management pilot.
No hot new rumors. Last they had heard over there was there will probably be some hiring again in the fall of 2011. Maybe a lot, maybe a little. All depends on the economy.
They know they drove the airline too hard this last summer. Not enough planes, parts or people. Made a lot of money but performance and service suffered. Don't want to do that again.
Also heard confirmation that we are searching the globe for every MD-90 we can find, but you guys already knew that.

Man that's an understatement. Thanks for the update Check. :)

Doug Masters 10-11-2010 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 883034)
I got the impression that guys have already been staying beyond 60 at a higher rate than anybody anticipated.
They thought more NWA pilots that still have their defined benefit would leave. They haven't.


Wait a minute! We were told not to worry about them on the SLI because they were gonna leave at 60 anyway! Are you saying that wasn't true???
:D I keed!

Nosmo King 10-11-2010 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 883034)
We asked about that. Attrition is a big unkown until more people start hitting the 65 mandatory.
I got the impression that guys have already been staying beyond 60 at a higher rate than anybody anticipated.
They thought more NWA pilots that still have their defined benefit would leave. They haven't.

Partially because the retiree medical benefits suck compared to the fNW contract. Fix it and see how many retire earlier than under the present circumstances...

Check Essential 10-11-2010 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 883044)
Partially because the retiree medical benefits suck compared to the fNW contract. Fix it and see how many retire earlier than under the present circumstances...

Right on the money.
Cost of medical care is a huge factor in that decision.

NuGuy 10-11-2010 07:50 AM

Heyas,

Since we are talking about a potential AK merger, I'd like to hear how the NWA merger was sold to the fDAL guys.

On the fNWA side, we didn't get a whole lot of information, of than "yea, it's happening, we're going to do our best".

Nu

forgot to bid 10-11-2010 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 883019)
Who would one ask about future destinations and line construction with every M88 pilot also a M90 pilot? Just wondering if ATL pilots can expect to see pairings with some more flying west of the Mississippi.

West of the Mississippi? There is nothing west of the Mississippi.


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 883044)
Partially because the retiree medical benefits suck compared to the fNW contract. Fix it and see how many retire earlier than under the present circumstances...

I don't know, something tells me that while that might play in to it, it wouldn't increase the rate of early retirements.

forgot to bid 10-11-2010 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 883028)
So, we are not hiring to keep up with attrition?

Well, after the Alaska merger we might not need to have new hires coming in the door. :rolleyes:

NuGuy 10-11-2010 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 883051)
Right on the money.
Cost of medical care is a huge factor in that decision.

CE is right. It's huge. If over over 60 guys had the fNWA plan, they'd be working for free right now,

As it stands, the DAL plan costs a huge amount of coin....enough to flip it into the negative side.

Nu

forgot to bid 10-11-2010 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 883053)
Heyas,

Since we are talking about a potential AK merger, I'd like to hear how the NWA merger was sold to the fDAL guys.

On the fNWA side, we didn't get a whole lot of information, of than "yea, it's happening, we're going to do our best".

Nu

Delta to pilots: You'll get Asia, DTW/MSP/SEA/MEM, 747s, lots of Airbuses, DC9s that fit the 100 seat market and the overall sexiness of the pilot group will increase 3 fold.

HA! I can't remember actually, I think it was all about a stronger and improved network.


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