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will the DOJ allow us to merge?
I'm so sorry, will SWA allow the DOJ/DOT to allow us to merge and do we need that distraction while SWA messes around with AAI? |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 883083)
Nu;
Why else would we not hire? Growth costs money. We need ours to pay down debt. Market still has too much capacity, really. |
Originally Posted by Roadie85
(Post 882978)
One solution to the Intl 24 hr SC issue is to reduce the number of Intl SC days to 3 a month. 6 days for domestic 12 hr SC's, 3 days for Intl 24 hr SC's. Same number of hours required.
Agreed, or 12 hour int'l shortcall. One of those equal pay for equal work things. Isn't that like a trade union mantra? And ACL, I never knew you could be shortcalled for a trip that reported outside your s/c window. That just seems extremely wrong to me. I think I would have to be unavailable for that, as opposed to readily available. |
Scambo;
It happened to me and another pilot I know and both of us checked and were told it was totally legal. They do it all of the time on the 73N for MAO and they do it all of the time on the big birds for international Augmented flights. |
Bar;
We need pilots last summer is self evident of that. Also not growing costs money too. a lot of it. Most airlines grow to spread the labor and other costs out over more seats. Why would we not add pilots? Would there possibly be something bigger on the horizon that may allow us to staff the need? I think, maybe. Even with a 2% YOY block hr increase, which by the way is well below what we wanted, we need more than 305 bodies. The NWA merger was back on so quick that no one had enough time to stop hiring. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 883085)
You cannot compare a NWA/DAL SLI to a SLI with a domestic carrier like AS. Apples and Oranges.
A 2001 hire is a very senior FO over at AS. It would not be the methodology used for our SLI, it could not be. Now a merger etc with HI would be similar as they fly ULH, LH and domestic short Haul. I suspect that whatever happens if and when it happens it will be as fair as it can be. Career expectations will come in to ply. Our 757 being paid at a WB rate will help tremendously. Heyas ACL, 20 years ago, I'd say you would be right. Arbitrators these days are all about simplicity and defensibility. "Dissimilar carriers" and "career expectations" are way too vague for them to deal with. Bar is correct...career expectations were completely jettisoned (for both sides) in the DAL/NWA merger with the exception of the very top of both lists. I'm NOT turning this into a NWA/DAL SLI debate. It is what it is, BUT we'd be really stupid if we didn't look at what worked and what didn't when applied to a new situation. Every argument that the DAL side used against "premium widebody" will return to visit us all. Arbitrators LOVE recent precedent. It would go category ratio, because it is simple AND defensible with recent precedent....and those of us on the bottom %50 of the list would be fracked. Otherwise you would need to RADICALLY alter ratios, which will be undefensible by the arbitrators OR have 25 year fences, which is essentially the NWA/REP merger plan, with all the ensuing happy results. Nu |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 883080)
boooooo.
Well, lets look at it. There is 1,453 pilots and 93 of those are on furlough. Anyone know their projected retirements? btw- it would hurt me but I'd like to start setting a precedent that furloughed pilots are counted as employed during an SLI. When merged, the reserve pilots will lose a 79 hour guarantee for reserve sc and 75 for lc. Now, if you knock that down to 70 hours wouldn't it require more pilots? Or what if AMR and DAL split Alaska into a North and South, AMR can have LAX and we'll take SEA/AL. Then we grow LAX. The furloughed pilot rule needs to stay the way it is. They just get dibs when there are jobs. I dont see how the staus / category ratio would brutalize DAL pilots. Just make all the senior 73N/As bid 88 FO and let FTB be the senior -800 captain...done. I think the SLI would be absolutely harsh to the age 40 something AK FO's. And there are lots of them. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 883093)
Bar;
We need pilots last summer is self evident of that. Also not growing costs money too. a lot of it. Most airlines grow to spread the labor and other costs out over more seats. Why would we not add pilots? Would there possibly be something bigger on the horizon that may allow us to staff the need? I think, maybe. Even with a 2% YOY block hr increase, which by the way is well below what we wanted, we need more than 305 bodies. The NWA merger was back on so quick that no one had enough time to stop hiring. |
Projected Training/Catergory lists for the last AE are out. :)
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Gotta love ANZ
TSFW, even if it seems NSFW: Thats ANZ's premium economy seats BTW Cheers George |
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