Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 890937)

That's true. I just don't want anyone to forget where the money is coming from for the next 9 quarters and beyond...the pilots' extreme sacrifices. Don't forget...don't forget!



Not if you don't fight for it! And certainly not if you do management's job for them by trying to lower your fellow pilots' expectations before Section 6 even begins! I'll tell you man, you wouldn't even be enjoying the low pay we're getting now if all of us old farts had your attitude years ago. Grow a freakin spine!

Carl

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 890941)

No it doesn't. It just means they wouldn't have been able to pay down quite as much debt. Get your facts straight. Then stop doing management's job for them.



No, the bankrupcy judge agreed we were a variable cost.



I don't think you mean that at all. I think you're all about lowering the expectations of your fellow pilots so that you get noticed by management some day. Your "work" here is plainly obvious.

Carl

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 890905)

747-8
777-300
747-400

Did I win?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 891005)

Carl, save the expectation drivel. How about you volunteer for ALPA again, quit dividing the group with DPA and get our pilots unified.

Some would accuse you of doing management's work by dividing the group as well.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 890899)

It's already been flying in France. :rolleyes:

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifieda...g/00011542.jpg





:D April Fools.... I HOPE

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 890932)

And if you would lower your neurosis long enough to think, you would realize that the top third takes the same hit as the middle and bottom third when pay cuts come. Nobody laughs all the way to the bank...except management that is.

Carl

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 891005)

No Carl we did by voting yes to our respective 1113C contracts.

Carl, save the expectation drivel. How about you volunteer for ALPA again, quit dividing the group with DPA and get our pilots unified.

Some would accuse you of doing management's work by dividing the group as well.

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 891043)

Hmmmm....
Things have taken a turn for the worse.
This thread needs some cheerleaders about now.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 890803)

So I think you're right: stagnation could be the new normal. The only thing that could change that picture would be economic growth in general, and perhaps a competitive response to uCAL or another merger that would let us grow somewhat faster than GDP.

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