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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 891298)

You can call me stupid, or whatever, but the way I see it mainline was contracting significantly while DCI was growing. I've been at DAL for over 20 years and I can't recall us (DAL mainline) ever growing 20% in one year. (ASMs from 2008 to 2009 above)

Yup, we shrank alot when corporate revenues went down by 45% in June, 2008, and our full year revenues were down 23%. But why are you focusing on 2 years ago when last year and this year are very different stories?

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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 891298)

I'm afraid I also don't consider an aircraft returned to flying from storage a "growth" aircraft.

Then if you're senior to me please make sure you don't bid any of those seats that are going to be available. Stay where you are!:p

Question for AIRBUS guys/gals.....

What happened to the "stick to the facs" quiz games? Can't seem to find them in LMS anymore. Did they remove them or just move them? I loved those quiz games. They definitily helped me study.

Thanks
fly2002

I thought RJs were good for Delta?

:D

Check,

By my math 16.6bil over agreements > 10 years is in a range of 5 to 7% of current revenues. I woul be pleased if we could spend (and use) that little on regional lift.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 891318)

I thought RJs were good for Delta?

:D

That point of view is now in a moving van on its way to Herndon.

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Originally Posted by 1215fuzz (Post 891201)

"I think the round dial drawings on the NG screens is hideous. "

I think that " U " shaped thing on a pole in front of the pilot is hideous too !!

:D

I agree.

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 891299)

slow-
You're using selective statistics to create your own "spin".
How do you square your assertion of decreased outsourcing with this:

The following table shows the available seat miles (“ASMs”) and revenue passenger miles (“RPMs”) operated for us under capacity purchase agreements with our regional air carriers (excluding Comair, Compass and Mesaba) for the years ended December 31, 2009, 2008 and 2007:
(in millions, except for number of aircraft operated)
.........2009......... 2008 .........2007
ASMs...20,852 ......17,425...... 17,881
RPMs...16,424 ......13,899 ......14,005
Number of aircraft operated, end of period
..........450........... 443........... 349

edit.. I see Wasatch Phantom beat me to it.:)

to add:

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/temp-140.jpg

Getting rid of the CHQ contract of 24 jets would be 5% of the total DCI fleet even after parking all of the Saabs but of course that doesn't count the Comair cuts.

NO RENEWAL IN 2012.

That should be in section 1, no renewal of any DCI contract.

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Originally Posted by fly2002 (Post 891317)

I didn't see them anywhere on the website either. They'll probably just tell you the LOD is more than sufficient.:confused:

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 891299)

In this case Slow is 100% right, these numbers shown here are misleading. There is actually a net decrease in regional flying in these numbers. The 2007 numbers exclude pinnacle's 124 CRJ200 jet fleet, which is added in 2008. Note that the 349 should actually have increased to 473, however, 30 aircraft were parked during that period. The number of RJ's continues to decrease at a rapid pace.

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 891303)

Easily. I use September 30, 2010 data, not 2009 data. The statistics aren't selective. They're fact. The number of DCI hulls is down substantially, and in a greater percentage than the decline in mainline. DCI ASM's are down 3% (10Q), and DCI stage length is shrinking (OAG). While mainline block hours did shrink domestically in 2008/2009, that flying is returning more rapidly due to the merger and economic recovery. DCI's block hours are declining.

Why do you have trouble with mainline growing vis a vis DCI?:confused:

slow (or any financial guys out there)--

I'm not an accountant, finance guy so riddle me this --

You keep saying "DCI". Isn't it true that technically "DCI" does not include the contract carriers? Its only the wholly owned subsidiaries.

Do the 10Q numbers you cite for ASMs of "regional carriers" include the contract carriers? That is after all a Delta financial statement and when they list the revenue and ASMs etc. of "regional carriers" aren't they talking about Comair, Compass and mesaba only?
Could the decrease you point out be due to the sale of Compass and mesaba toward the end of that 9 month period?

I really don't know -- isn't revenue from ticket sales on Shuttle America just counted as revenue for "Delta" and then we have a line item for "contract carrier expense" (page 31 of the 10K)???

When talking about Chautaqua, Pinnacle, etc. the table from the 10K showing the numbers for "contract carriers" is more relevant is it not? Those numbers show growth, not decreases.