Chuck,
The most correct answer is that they could have put you on short call at 0544 (attempted contact 1944). 10 hours. 0730 is outside this window. The scheduler was saying "help out" because he was giving such late notice and being polite. I've seen this.

Thanks for the chime-in Ronnie. I couldn't agree more as to the polite demeanor of our crew schedulers.
chuck

11-08-2010 | 05:51 AM

#51902

Denny Crane

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From: Kickin’ Back

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1234

If you bid each group in a separate line, you will want to also use the "All or nothing" command at the end of each line. If you don't do that it won't matter if you put the bid groups in separate Lines or all in the same line.

Thanks 1234!

Denny

11-08-2010 | 05:52 AM

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Superpilot92

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From: Guppy Commander

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie75

TOGA LK,
Did NWA have long call/short call? I thought with the RAPs you had one everyday of reserve (like AA).

edit: oops see in your post that a pilot could bid long call. I didnt' know NWA had that.

Anyone cups bid longcall but the senior guy bidding it got it. So if you were senior on reserve you could sit longcall all month while the junior guys sat shortcall all month. You also bid on the wrap times if you cared. Both systems had their pluses and minus's and now we need to take all the pluses and make the current system better.

11-08-2010 | 06:03 AM

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reddog25

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

Decertified.

http://nwaafa.org/docs/election/Dismissal_R-7254.pdf

http://nwaafa.org/docs/election/Camp...k_05Nov10_.pdf

Owwwww Standby for lawyers............

11-08-2010 | 06:04 AM

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ExAF

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+s and -s

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superpilot92

True, but if you bid long call you were first to fly. If you were trying not to fly you wouldn't bid long call. Smart bidding of days off strings and certain RAP times were much more effective to get extra days at home, however it was only a benefit for non-commuters. The commuters usually wanted to fly if on a RAP. Bottom line...commuting to reserve sucks either way.

11-08-2010 | 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by reddog25

Owwwww Standby for lawyers............

What's Yogi say......."it ain't over till the fat lawyer sings, or at least gets paid"

11-08-2010 | 06:06 AM

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TOGA LK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie75

I was mid-pack on reserve and seldom had shortcall. the senior or junior guys living in base would preference shortcall as they were last to fly. in fact, I can count on one hand the number of times I actually flew on a shortcall. the other advantage was the ability of schedulers to look ahead more than a day. on more than one occasion, I was called very early on a day off (due to time zones), told not to commute out, enjoy 24 hours of rest and then fly a particular trip. that actually happened more times than I flew on shortcall. I have tried to orchestrate such things here to only be cutoff and told that they only look one day in advance....

lastly, are you familiar with AAs reserve system?

11-08-2010 | 06:11 AM

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TOGA LK

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Originally Posted by ExAF

Bottom line...commuting to reserve sucks either way.

agreed, can't hold a line anywhere except for NYC and that will never happen. but this current system makes commuting to reserve the worst experience yet bc of the aforementioned reasons. ALPA fix this s___!

if you were lucky enough to get one of those late RAPs you were essentially off for the day and not legal for the am pushes the following day.

lastly, the old contract had a ratio of shortcalls to longcalls, they couldn't arbitrarily place the entire pool into shortcalls as I have seen them
do here.

it's really too bad there was such a hurry in putting this last contract together, we all couldve benefited from some more drawn out strategy of renegotiating scope, DC, pay and work rules.

11-08-2010 | 06:18 AM

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Superpilot92

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From: Guppy Commander

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExAF

True but for a commuter you needed longcall or you were stuck in base for however many days you were on for. That's sucks for commuters! So sure you were first to fly but at least you werent sitting in a crashpad the whole time. That's where the current system is better, with that said it can always be made better.

I agree 100% that reserve sucks either way though

11-08-2010 | 06:32 AM

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kamsman

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I'm getting a pop up on Deltanet that tells me I have to complete LMS CQ training prior to Nov 30th. I have tried to access it at home with my Mac and have had no success. Does anyone know if this is a windows program only? Thanks