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georgetg 12-18-2010 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 918360)
I like where your head's at...you always gotta be watching your six around the boardroom types and all that...but I seriously doubt a multibillion dollar decades long fleet planning decision will hinge on the roughly 15-20 bucks per hour differential in total flight crew costs between 7ER and 320 rates.

agree 100%.
It's not Delta management I'm worried about ;-)

There's good precedent, and there's bad.
When it comes to rates, I hope it's handled more like the 757/767 and 73NG 700/800 where the lower rate was adjusted up to match the higher rate.

Cheers
George

DeadHead 12-19-2010 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 918364)
agree 100%.
It's not Delta management I'm worried about ;-)

There's good precedent, and there's bad.
When it comes to rates, I hope it's handled more like the 757/767 and 73NG 700/800 where the lower rate was adjusted up to match the higher rate.

Cheers
George

As long as they can keep the 88 rates down, I'm sure all will be well...:rolleyes:

acl65pilot 12-19-2010 05:28 AM

George;

The 320 Neo is a half step to where the airlines want their efficiency to be. It is an awesome start, but the Next Gen jets that both of these carriers have been talking about need to be clean sheet designs.

Basically what the 320NEO is, is a Bigger C-Series. It would work well in DAL's fleet since it could be flown by 320 pilots, but I am not convinced that DAL would commit that amount of CAPEX given their discipline. I can see DAL getting Airbus to commit to retrofitting all of our existing 320's with GTF's and then buying a ton of used ones on the open market.

The MD-90 and renewed 88's are jets that can be here 15-20 more years. The low costs of ownership offset many of the other inefficiencies. Bar is correct that there are a "few" 757's that will have to leave the fleet around 2020, but not all of em. Some of the 320's will time out too, but it is very possible to deal with these needs in the used aircraft market.

If DAL commits to a large Narrow body aircraft order wit the 320 Neo, I will be surprised. Of course if Airbus darn near give us the jets for free, yep, I can see us jumping on that. It take my previous argument and throws it out the window! :D

acl65pilot 12-19-2010 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 918348)
That's what happens when you forget about your own core-competencies and outsource the engineering to third parties...

I just hope this is a study and Boeing isn't serious about this:
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...363-105194.jpg
(Look at the bulge for the lengthened gear to clear the large diameter fan of the GTF)

Cheers
George


George, it is a cheap way to compete with Airbus. Boeing has eked a about as much efficiency out of the 73N as the possible could. A new clean sheet airframe is what is needed.

I would like to see Boeing hang a GTF off the 757. It would be a great selling jet. Clean up some of the systems that add weight to the current generation, and you would have an awesome airplane. If I were king for a day, the 757 is the platform I would be using to design a narrow body jet for tomorrow's needs! :D

satchip 12-19-2010 06:01 AM

For FTB. You don't see them making a War Chicken commercial do you?

YouTube - ESPN Alabama Roll Tide Commercial

flyguy1 12-19-2010 06:08 AM

I need some ICREW help from someone. I am trying to drop a 3 day next month, and am willing to pick up any 4 day to replace it. Nothing on the open board fits, but will take anything that becomes available. How do I put in a bid for dropping a specific trip and picking up any available 4 day? Thanks

alfaromeo 12-19-2010 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy1 (Post 918411)
I need some ICREW help from someone. I am trying to drop a 3 day next month, and am willing to pick up any 4 day to replace it. Nothing on the open board fits, but will take anything that becomes available. How do I put in a bid for dropping a specific trip and picking up any available 4 day? Thanks

Put in the drop for the three day in the top portion of the screen as normal. In the pickup section put *04 to pick up any four day. If you want a four day on 13-15 Jan, you would put:

*04 13Jan
*04 14Jan
*04 15Jan

The * qualifier has to be on its own row, you can't do multiple trips on any line with a *.

Bucking Bar 12-19-2010 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy1 (Post 918411)
I need some ICREW help from someone. I am trying to drop a 3 day next month, and am willing to pick up any 4 day to replace it. Nothing on the open board fits, but will take anything that becomes available. How do I put in a bid for dropping a specific trip and picking up any available 4 day? Thanks

Certainly there are some 737 pilots able to answer that question. I do not believe a line holder has ever gone to UIO or MAO.

Check Essential 12-19-2010 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 918424)
Certainly there are some 737 pilots able to answer that question. I do not believe a line holder has ever gone to UIO or MAO.

No kidding. Those trips ALWAYS end up in open time.

JABDIP 12-19-2010 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 918402)
George, it is a cheap way to compete with Airbus. Boeing has eked a about as much efficiency out of the 73N as the possible could. A new clean sheet airframe is what is needed.

I would like to see Boeing hang a GTF off the 757. It would be a great selling jet. Clean up some of the systems that add weight to the current generation, and you would have an awesome airplane. If I were king for a day, the 757 is the platform I would be using to design a narrow body jet for tomorrow's needs! :D

Needs a wider Cabin in that the isle is to narrow. JMHO. 320 cabin is much nicer.:D


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