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Pineapple Guy 05-01-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by JABDIP (Post 987779)
I don't think we know half the stuff that goes on. Delta pilot's wife was in Miami looking for hotel to have Corp meeting. One of the hotels she talked to used ALPA as a reference in that they chosen them for their meetings. After learning this, asked her to call back and see if she could find out what the cost were to ALPA. Hotel response back to her was, "WE can not discuss our rate with ALPA in that we are in litigation for damages to the conference rooms caused by ALPA". Could not find out any more details. Makes one wonder if there is something to this and what really happened. ONE UNHAPPY DUES PAYING MEMBER. I will be asking my reps about this?:rolleyes:

I'm raising the BS flag. Another unsubstantiated fourth hand (hotel clerk --> pilot's wife --> pilot --> JABDIP) rumor. Why don't you just call the Delta MEC Treasurer and get the real story, instead of another typical ALPA bashing on an anonymous forum??

dragon 05-01-2011 11:34 AM

Training isn't losing money for the company, rather what I was trying to say is they were having their budget cut. Less money for conversions, simulators etc. Moving large (senior) equipment would entail significant training events.

We're still trying to finish the May 10 AE. Many of us sat for a while before class, and then again after Sims. The SLI guys were all telling tales of budget cutbacks affecting training and the reason for the delay in the ATL 767 conversion.

nyc7erb 05-01-2011 12:15 PM

. Yes, there are a few here and there that drink their fair share, but most do not. Most realize that they have to be up the next morning back at the mind numbing task of sitting though another 10+ hrs of a MEC meeting, or a middle seat across country after the meeting is over.

If we are going to publish this data it needs to be meaningful. To me this just looks like a lot of numbers.

I didn't go to many meetings but was at one or two as a coat tail rider. In the hospitality suite, there was all top shelf booze, premium beer and a lot of appetizers. The breakfasts were all buffet. I found that the association paid per diem (it was like 70/day back then) whether you spent it or not. I can see where someone could easily rack up $200/day with the free booze, appetizers, breakfast and then the per diem on top of that.

Honestly, it didn't sit well with me as a dues paying member. I felt that while the LEC guys were volunteers, they certainly were well compensated for their time. When I think of a volunteer, I think of someone who works for nothing. (like I was). The LEC/MEC guys may be volunteers but they certainly are not working for free.

I think if the general membership knew about all the perks, they wouldn't be too keen on it..... especially in the light of what has transpired over the past 10 years with our pay and benefits. I know that I wasn't and I was working for free (like the majority of ALPA volunteers).

newKnow 05-01-2011 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 987745)
I keep sayin that! Who has actually seen them all in the same room?! :D

Carl

Someone once emailed me that they met someone who overheard a conversation where one of the people knew someone who thought they saw three out of the four of them in the same fog-filled, dark room (an indoor stadium really). But, not sailing and slow together. No one has ever claimed that. :D

Pineapple Guy 05-01-2011 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by nyc7erb (Post 987822)
I didn't go to many meetings but was at one or two as a coat tail rider. In the hospitality suite, there was all top shelf booze, premium beer and a lot of appetizers. The breakfasts were all buffet. I found that the association paid per diem (it was like 70/day back then) whether you spent it or not. I can see where someone could easily rack up $200/day with the free booze, appetizers, breakfast and then the per diem on top of that.

Another false statement. Give the MEC Treasurer a call if you doubt me.

newKnow 05-01-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 987690)
Been away for a while ... any rumors on a possible AE this summer?



Word on the street (the DALPA board) is:

* Late May/Early June AE
* A330-200 base in ATL -- flying taken from SEA
* A320 base in NYC -- flying taken from MSP

No. I do not know how it could be just an A330-200 base in ATL and I didn't ask.

and

Of course, everything is from second and third hand sources, but what isn't? :rolleyes:

Nosmo King 05-01-2011 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 987832)
Word on the street (the DALPA board) is:

* Late May/Early June AE
* A330-200 base in ATL -- flying taken from SEA
* A320 base in NYC -- flying taken from MSP

No. I do not know how it could be just an A330-200 base in ATL and I didn't ask.

and

Of course, everything is from second and third hand sources, but what isn't? :rolleyes:

The implication for an atl a330-200 base would be very long block times
such as africa and deep sa routes. Don't think you can open up a base that just flies- 200s
as all pilots fly both models. Methinks the flying for the 330 out of atl is starting to look unattractive except for 2 or 3 destinations.

CVG767A 05-01-2011 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by nyc7erb (Post 987822)
I found that the association paid per diem (it was like 70/day back then) whether you spent it or not. I can see where someone could easily rack up $200/day with the free booze, appetizers, breakfast and then the per diem on top of that.

That hasn't been my experience. Maybe it's different for MEC/LEC reps, but I was given an expense form after the conferences I attended. These forms required me to list meal amounts to get reimbursement. Since nearly all of the food was provided, there was nothing to claim.

Nosmo King 05-01-2011 01:43 PM

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nwaf16dude 05-01-2011 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 987853)
The implication for an atl a330-200 base would be very long block times
such as africa and deep sa routes. Don't think you can open up a base that just flies- 200s
as all pilots fly both models. Methinks the flying for the 330 out of atl is starting to look unattractive except for 2 or 3 destinations.

This is mostly TIC, but you're kidding, right? Atlanta 330 will only get 2 or 3 good destinations? Are you forgetting what airline you work for? Do you honestly think the "home 'drome" is not going to get a crack at every cherry destination the 330 already serves? (not to mention the ones that will be taken from the ATL7ER.)

If the 330 moves into ATL, it will be interesting to watch the feeding frenzy of guys trying to get on it, and the unintended consequences of the ensuing backfill and displacements. Wonder how many of those "I'll never fly an Airbus" guys will change their minds?

Could be tough for the guys in SEA that were surprised they got the SEA 7ER award. Hopefully not for Denny Crane, of course.


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