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Rather B Fishin 04-30-2011 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 987421)
Im pretty sure he is referring to" trip parking." Just my guess.

Trip parking occurs now. I see a greater benefit with increased flexibility.

Nosmo King 04-30-2011 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 987432)
Trip parking occurs now. I see a greater benefit with increased flexibility.

Trip parking between bases does NOT occur now. I say this as someone that is very senior in category. I could probably run a club parking trips for junior guys and abusing the seniority of everyone junior to me in another base.

As it stands now, I've never used the swap board, but I know I would have for some trips I have seen in SEA. I bet the guys junior to me in SEA wouldn't have liked it...

DelDah Capt 04-30-2011 12:31 PM

It's good to be the King!

A look at our CEO's pay package if you're interested:

Delta Air Lines pays CEO $8 million for 2010 - Yahoo! Finance

Flamer 04-30-2011 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by orvil (Post 987423)
I looked at the report for MEC meeting costs. I do understand that it costs money to hold these meetings. I bet you could get a much better rate by holding these meetings at the same place. A bulk purchase deal. Frequent user points. Theoretically, the meetings move around because the MEC wanted each base to have the opportunity to see their union at work close up. But, given that most of the meetings take place in closed session, the meetings could be held in one place.

I am of the opinion that it is grossly inappropritate to drink on the Union's (our) dime at these business meetings. I don't expect DAL to pay for my liquor. And, I don't expect to pay the union to drink either. Actually, I am surprised that you see coffee, water and soft drinks served at LEC meetings. Buy your own drink if you are thirsty.

I suggest that it might be appropriate to offer a resolution to prohibit dues dollars being spent on any spirits. That would include all of the "hospitality" rooms at ALPA meetings, too.

I got a better one. Give them line pilot per diem and someone can go on a "lunch run" at 1030.

Now, if they are already receiving per diem while eating for free that's an F.

newKnow 04-30-2011 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 987413)
But slowplay says that we average 87 hours a month across the board here at DL! I'm not seeing it...

I wonder if that includes greenslip flying?

When is he going to come back to verify that number? 87 seems very high. :confused:

satchip 04-30-2011 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 987511)
I wonder if that includes greenslip flying?

When is he going to come back to verify that number? 87 seems very high. :confused:

I think he said that included everything. Slips, training, 23G, etc.

1234 04-30-2011 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by DelDah Capt (Post 987493)
It's good to be the King!

A look at our CEO's pay package if you're interested:

Delta Air Lines pays CEO $8 million for 2010 - Yahoo! Finance


Hmmmm.....Not quite the same 6.5% that the rest of the company got was it. He gets incentive whether or not we make a profit :(

From the article:

The pay for Richard Anderson was down 4 percent from the previous year. His $600,000 salary didn't change. But for 2010 he received incentive pay of almost $1.3 million. He didn't get that incentive pay in 2009 because Delta didn't turn a profit that year. But he did get relocation benefits and other perks valued at $1.2 million, so the two payments roughly offset each other.

Delta said Anderson's base salary has not changed since he joined Delta as CEO on Sept. 1, 2007. He gets incentive pay in cash for years like 2010, when Delta turns a profit and has a payout under its profit-sharing plan. He gets incentive pay in restricted shares if the profit-sharing plan doesn't pay out.

tsquare 04-30-2011 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 987410)
I'm sorry, I'm not following your logic. Pilot to pilot swap board is a first come, first serve system. Seniority has nothing to do with it. It believe having out of base swap board actually helps junior guys.

You aren't thinking like a reserve guy. Say for example that 10% of a category puts their trips out on the swap board and all of them are picked up by out of base guys. This trend continues for a period of time... Now, those guys that dropped their trips aren't gonna just sit home and not fly for 30 hours a month are they? they are gonna pick up trips from open time that are more suited to their desires... So what happens when DAL re calculated the number of reserves required? Hey.. we got all these reserves sitting around doing nothing.. we don't need any additional manning. That and the fact that greenslips are gonna dry up because when trips don't get dropped into open time because some other guy is flying them.. they won't go out as a GS... This is a concession guys... Sorry, but it is. It doesn't force the company to fix the abortion we call the reserve system, and we bail out the manning again. Copme to council 66 LEC meeting next week.. If I can make it, it's gonna be a barn burner.

tsquare 04-30-2011 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 987421)
Im pretty sure he is referring to" trip parking." Just my guess.


That's a small part of it. There is a bigger picture.

scambo1 04-30-2011 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 987557)
You aren't thinking like a reserve guy. Say for example that 10% of a category puts their trips out on the swap board and all of them are picked up by out of base guys. This trend continues for a period of time... Now, those guys that dropped their trips aren't gonna just sit home and not fly for 30 hours a month are they? they are gonna pick up trips from open time that are more suited to their desires... So what happens when DAL re calculated the number of reserves required? Hey.. we got all these reserves sitting around doing nothing.. we don't need any additional manning. That and the fact that greenslips are gonna dry up because when trips don't get dropped into open time because some other guy is flying them.. they won't go out as a GS... This is a concession guys... Sorry, but it is. It doesn't force the company to fix the abortion we call the reserve system, and we bail out the manning again. Copme to council 66 LEC meeting next week.. If I can make it, it's gonna be a barn burner.


T;

I think most folks get what you are saying. I think you said it best when you described it as a concession.

It appears good on the surface, but in the end it hurts everybody because fewer pilots are needed so progression slows.

Reps that dont see this are guys that think they are management.


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