Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta.html)

tsquare 04-29-2011 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 987333)
Say the 737 has a design flaw that grounds them all. We lose 11% of our fleet or 14% of our domestic fleet (using 1am math mind you). SWA would lose 100%.

.

I can guarantee you that no matter how bad it was.. that would NEVER happen.. ever....

chuck416 04-30-2011 03:55 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 987342)
I can guarantee you that no matter how bad it was.. that would NEVER happen.. ever....

T-Square, I think Boeing would be interested in hiring a guy with the omniscience that you seem to have. All you'd need to do is somehow get that to fit onto a resume'. Not sure how that would read though. :-)

forgot to bid 04-30-2011 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 987352)
T-Square, I think Boeing would be interested in hiring a guy with the omniscience that you seem to have. All you'd need to do is somehow get that to fit onto a resume'. Not sure how that would read though. :-)

Ha, I think tsquare means that this DOT, who has a man crush on $outhwest, would never allow anything detrimental to ever happen to them such as say grounding the 737.

Even if it was discovered that it has a tendency to explode in the sunshine or something along those lines.

Columbia 04-30-2011 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by ronnie75 (Post 987298)
Oh, I guess SWA pilots work harder than us. That is why they are paid more. OK. Back to the salt mine.

You forgot that they have fewer days off as well. How is it that fuel keeps going up, yet the bills are somehow getting paid (in large part by raising fares, and in small part by selling credit cards)?

scambo1 04-30-2011 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 987369)
You forgot that they have fewer days off as well. How is it that fuel keeps going up, yet the bills are somehow getting paid (in large part by raising fares, and in small part by selling credit cards)?


They average 12 day months at SWA. I suspect if you look at all DAL domestic fleets, we cannot make that same assertion.

DAL prices its product at very little above cost. IOW we wholesale the ticket and try to make our money by all the ancillary fees. Dickson's letter says DAL gets $450 from AMEX for every skymiles credit card sold. Give me a little more of the action and I'll hawk the cards on my days off.

AMEX has been great for DAL, but honestly I dont know why a savvy consumer would go the AMEX route - fees, high interest if not paid off, blackout dates, etc. If they can afford to kick back $450/card, its even a worse deal for the consumer than I am capable of delving into. Our airline seems to be a marketing vehicle for adjuct businesses with fewer rewards coming to the company. IOW why dont we insource all the adjunct business, we have the scale to do it.

I am pleased DAL is paying off debt. 2-3 more profitable quarters and lower debt will result in a credit rating upgrade and wall street will respond favorably. Severing ties with the ticket mills will help us regain pricing power. If we can reel in our outsourcing and actually control our quality (rather than lipservice it) this might once again be a top company to work for due to the prospects available to employees.

chuck416 04-30-2011 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 987366)
Ha, I think tsquare means that this DOT, who has a man crush on $outhwest, would never allow anything detrimental to ever happen to them such as say grounding the 737.

Even if it was discovered that it has a tendency to explode in the sunshine or something along those lines.

Oh! Forgive the previous pun. Moment of understanding happening here! :o Gotta' remember, I'm a 'steam-dial gauges' kinda' guy...

Rather B Fishin 04-30-2011 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 987341)
It screws junior pilots... again. If you want to fly trips in my base, put in a WS or GS, and take your chances. OR... bid to my base... Otherwise, this thing is ripe for abuse... I would much rather that the ASSociation actually do something worthwhile and fix the damned reserve system. This is a bandaid on a sucking chest wound.

I'm sorry, I'm not following your logic. Pilot to pilot swap board is a first come, first serve system. Seniority has nothing to do with it. It believe having out of base swap board actually helps junior guys.

80ktsClamp 04-30-2011 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 987377)
They average 12 day months at SWA. I suspect if you look at all DAL domestic fleets, we cannot make that same assertion.

DAL prices its product at very little above cost. IOW we wholesale the ticket and try to make our money by all the ancillary fees. Dickson's letter says DAL gets $450 from AMEX for every skymiles credit card sold. Give me a little more of the action and I'll hawk the cards on my days off.

AMEX has been great for DAL, but honestly I dont know why a savvy consumer would go the AMEX route - fees, high interest if not paid off, blackout dates, etc. If they can afford to kick back $450/card, its even a worse deal for the consumer than I am capable of delving into. Our airline seems to be a marketing vehicle for adjuct businesses with fewer rewards coming to the company. IOW why dont we insource all the adjunct business, we have the scale to do it.

I am pleased DAL is paying off debt. 2-3 more profitable quarters and lower debt will result in a credit rating upgrade and wall street will respond favorably. Severing ties with the ticket mills will help us regain pricing power. If we can reel in our outsourcing and actually control our quality (rather than lipservice it) this might once again be a top company to work for due to the prospects available to employees.


But slowplay says that we average 87 hours a month across the board here at DL! I'm not seeing it...

Nosmo King 04-30-2011 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 987410)
I'm sorry, I'm not following your logic. Pilot to pilot swap board is a first come, first serve system. Seniority has nothing to do with it. It believe having out of base swap board actually helps junior guys.

Im pretty sure he is referring to" trip parking." Just my guess.

orvil 04-30-2011 09:03 AM

I looked at the report for MEC meeting costs. I do understand that it costs money to hold these meetings. I bet you could get a much better rate by holding these meetings at the same place. A bulk purchase deal. Frequent user points. Theoretically, the meetings move around because the MEC wanted each base to have the opportunity to see their union at work close up. But, given that most of the meetings take place in closed session, the meetings could be held in one place.

I am of the opinion that it is grossly inappropritate to drink on the Union's (our) dime at these business meetings. I don't expect DAL to pay for my liquor. And, I don't expect to pay the union to drink either. Actually, I am surprised that you see coffee, water and soft drinks served at LEC meetings. Buy your own drink if you are thirsty.

I suggest that it might be appropriate to offer a resolution to prohibit dues dollars being spent on any spirits. That would include all of the "hospitality" rooms at ALPA meetings, too.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:38 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands