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OK... assuming that the manning formula is not a static document:

1) A pilot wants to drop a trip but cannot because of capped reserve days.
2) Pilot puts the trip on the swap board, where it sits..
3) Pilot from another base swoops in and picks up the trip

Repercussions of this exchange:

Because the trip was covered by a different base, it would not go down on the liability side of that bases' ledger to use an accounting motif. When the numbers are crunched, they will see that fewer reserve pilots are required since the trips are being covered. IOW, all that has been done in effect is to shift that flying to another base. I am sure that we are only talking about a little amount of time, but what boils my shrimp is that this proposal does nothing to alleviate the reserve manning issue. WE.. the pilots... help out the issue by allowing trips to be covered by other bases, and skeds has not to get it's hands dirty in the process. If this is to be allowed, we need to bring back true yellow slips without all the days of availability garbage and let a reserve pilot pick up a trip that is either in open time or on the swap board.. within his base.... first.. before any cherry pickers from outside. Then, I might be interested. Until then, the out of base WS/GS process is working fine. This issue here is the reserve system. This does nada to fix it and is little more than diversion from that.

Good question. There is in fact a delay between control input and effect. Not necessarily from what a person might believe though, due to the geographical distance of the machine from the operator. (Physically speaking of course, mental distance could be even greater.):D

The majority of time delay comes from the control station talking satellite speak, the satellite talking to the airplane, and then the airplane having to decipher the satellite speak and turn it into mechanical control input.

Less than your 3 second delay control input to control effect in the 88 at high pitch attitudes though. :cool:

GJ

The trip wasn't covered by another base. The trip was owned by a pilot who then chose to give it up. There will be no "numbers crunching" when it comes to this trip in regards to staffing because it started out as a covered trip, the company never got involved with covering the trip, and the trip was flown without a hitch. One pilot was able to get rid of his trip that he didn't want to fly and another pilot was able to pick up more time without regard to the ALV+15. The flying didn't shift bases. It's still the same trip out of the same base. Just because one guy in one seat may be from a different base, he's in that base for that trip.

I don't see how it creates any sort of liability in any base. If an ATL guy takes my Kiev trip, and I take his Munich trip, both trips are covered, and no time has shifted between bases. As far as denying good trips to more junior pilots in the same base, I don't think that the senior guys would be dumping their good trips in the absence of a desirable swap.

Does our reserve system need fixing? Probably. Do out-of-base trip swaps have any impact on a pilot on reserve? I don't think so--

Yep - are Soldiers are the best. But lets not forget our Sailors, as in Navy SEALs! :D

Scoop

So then it is your contention that the pilot who dropped the original trip will not pick up anything to fill up his month... Let's say he had a 75 hour month, and dropped a 20 hour trip.. he will be satisfied to finish the month with 55 hours.. got it.. thanks for the clarification. :rolleyes:

What about trips that are just picked up off of the swap board? You know.. the crap trips that nobody wants? (Except perhaps a reserve pilot who is sitting SC and not flying?) This allows that ATL pilot to fill up his month with no automatic recover of that trip by our base. There is no quid pro quo. I will shut up if they open this to reserves without regard to days of availability.. the old style yellow slips. Other than that, I am gonna make a lot of noise about this, because it is a hose job.

Oh, and I fyp above :)

And lastly, if you give up your KBP trip for MUC, I am going to personally remove your he-man membership.

Bullet catching champion - May 2011.