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hockeypilot44 05-17-2011 06:44 PM

I wore shorts and flip flops with a t-shirt back in August while on vacation with my wife and daughter (she's under 2). Flights were wide open. An rj flight canceled. My flight ended up having one seat. I was in shorts and a t-shirt so we did not get on. Got on the next one. I then missed three flights in a row from ATL to home. I was called up to all of them to tell me there was one open seat (none of the non-revs ahead of me wanted to split up). We ended up getting on the last flight of the night. Had I been dressed in business casual, we would have been on every flight we tried (me in jumpseat with wife and kid in last seat). My days of traveling out of business casual are over. I'll commute to work in jeans and a collared shirt sometimes with pants on top of my suitcase on standby just in case, but that's my only exception.

At NWA, you had to be in business casual to be in first class, but it was not free. It seems like NWA had more first class seats available though. At Delta, I have seen 70 paying passengers on the upgrade list for 0 seats. What good is free first class if Delta just gives the seats away to paying passengers anyway? It's really frustrating on oversold international flights. Delta does upgrade passengers internationally when it runs out of coach seats. I have seen this first hand.

acl65pilot 05-17-2011 06:52 PM

It depends on the ticket fair classification of the passengers booked in Coach on an oversold flight. They will upgrade their Metals first, and then others in order of booking class. Lastly they will put ppl in first if they are going to deny boarding to any other passengers. (This will be more so now with the new federal laws in effect)
The passengers you see on the standby list are burning miles or free upgrade vouchers, or bought the right to standby for an upgrade. DAL just has that many ppl that have miles to burn.

Roadkill 05-17-2011 07:37 PM

how do I turn off advertising? I'm logged in on a new laptop, at the hotel in Mecca, and these ads area eating up my bandwidth and time and page! Thx!
PS... none of the fleet captains knew when the AE would be today. However, there were 2 fleet capts and a dir. of flight ops that said they expected A320 movement possibly, but didn't seem to consider it an overly exciting number, and they were talking directly to 320 guys. We'll see.

Jesse 05-17-2011 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 995101)
how do I turn off advertising? I'm logged in on a new laptop, at the hotel in Mecca, and these ads area eating up my bandwidth and time and page! Thx!
PS... none of the fleet captains knew when the AE would be today. However, there were 2 fleet capts and a dir. of flight ops that said they expected A320 movement possibly, but didn't seem to consider it an overly exciting number, and they were talking directly to 320 guys. We'll see.

Use FireFox and the plug in tool AdBlock.

buzzpat 05-17-2011 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 995002)
Lucky you. I am up near ALV+15 already, but I prefer to work my tail off than sit on SC not getting credit for that time.

My problem is that it has been feast or famine. I'm right on the ragged edge and getting a line every 2 out of 3 months. When I fly, I fly my ass off. This past month, on reserve, with YS and GS in, I'm sitting like a fat Buddha. I've had one SC this month. I'd rather fly personally. There were some vacation weeks in there but otherwise I've gone from being the local ***** to being a snore. I think its the new reserve test. Out here in "nowheresville" we've never been adequately covered. Now, for some reason, we have a ****load of guys and no open trips. I'm hoping to fly with my fave CA on Thursday and put in a YS....we'll see.

acl65pilot 05-17-2011 09:19 PM

Buzz;
The new reserves required formula is a huge win for line holders. It now allows them to swap out of the crap trips and leave those in the pot for reserves to fly. As a result the trips in the pot are less efficient and as a result utilize the reserves less, meaning that there is less likeliness that the reserves will time out or break guarantee. The trips being flown have less credit, and less block. The line holders are now able to dump these for better trips in the pot.

Will it effect staffing in the long term? I do not know, but the utilization of reserves is now where the company has been targeting for a long time. Line Holders are happy because they can better their lines a lot easier, and dump the horrible trips. My guess is that the company will want to keep the way the new reserve required formula because it allows the line holders to get more of what they want and that being 88% of the pilot group it is a win. The benefit for reserve pilots is that they can swap off days to better their schedule too, the downside is that the trips flown will not be of the same caliber that they used to.

JABDIP 05-17-2011 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 994773)
If no longer current, you will do a minimum of two days in the sim with an LOE.

Just went non current for landings and all I had to do was 3 takeoff and landings. Just got finished a couple days ago.:)

tsquare 05-18-2011 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 995002)
Lucky you. I am up near ALV+15 already, but I prefer to work my tail off than sit on SC not getting credit for that time.

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tsquare 05-18-2011 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 995088)
I wore shorts and flip flops with a t-shirt back in August while on vacation with my wife and daughter (she's under 2). Flights were wide open. An rj flight canceled. My flight ended up having one seat. I was in shorts and a t-shirt so we did not get on. Got on the next one. I then missed three flights in a row from ATL to home. I was called up to all of them to tell me there was one open seat (none of the non-revs ahead of me wanted to split up). We ended up getting on the last flight of the night. Had I been dressed in business casual, we would have been on every flight we tried (me in jumpseat with wife and kid in last seat). My days of traveling out of business casual are over. I'll commute to work in jeans and a collared shirt sometimes with pants on top of my suitcase on standby just in case, but that's my only exception.

At NWA, you had to be in business casual to be in first class, but it was not free. It seems like NWA had more first class seats available though. At Delta, I have seen 70 paying passengers on the upgrade list for 0 seats. What good is free first class if Delta just gives the seats away to paying passengers anyway? It's really frustrating on oversold international flights. Delta does upgrade passengers internationally when it runs out of coach seats. I have seen this first hand.

This kind of discussion is very amusing. Is wearing a nice pair of trousers and a nice shirt really that abhorrent? We all KNOW the rules. We all KNOW that the flights are full... Is it worth taking the chance? But for all the guys commuting to/from MCO.. especially if you are senior to me.. by all means.. keep wearing those comfortable jeans and those flip flops.. and I thank you for doing so. :D

dalad 05-18-2011 12:48 AM

Yeah, think about World Wide Entertainment group and Jack Utzick.


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