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forgot to bid 12-26-2010 11:32 AM

alright let me ask this because i dont know, what incentive pay was there for resv pilots under nwa's systems. such as the gs over guarantee and payback systems?

if there wasnt one, would you prefer a hybrid system with 1.5 over 80 and resv gs's?

i'm think of super's situation on this one, 50 hours on gs so 120 hrs of pay and his pb days meant he was off dec 21-28...

newKnow 12-26-2010 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 921414)
alright let me ask this because i dont know, what incentive pay was there for resv pilots under nwa's systems. such as the gs over guarantee and payback systems?

if there wasnt one, would you prefer a hybrid system with 1.5 over 80 and resv gs's?

i'm think of super's situation on this one, 50 hours on gs so 120 hrs of pay and his pb days meant he was off dec 21-28...

The incentive was to stay off reserve if you wanted to get paid more than 75 hours.... :)

johnso29 12-26-2010 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Amish Pilot (Post 921349)
Where's the snow??? Sitting in NYC at the long layover hotel with not a flake in sight. The WX channel keeps calling for a Blizzard. Of course, I have a late afternoon flight out of EWR and Mother D is still showing all is GO for a launch. Fun times in the Big Apple..... Good Luck to all.:p


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 921354)
Do not be tricked by Mother Nature's head-fakes. Get plenty of rest and food while you can. It could be a long night. :)


Originally Posted by Amish Pilot (Post 921357)
Good Advice Tom. Flurries just started, being a ANC refugee, I am well aware of Mother Nature's force. They just didn't hype it on TV so much.
Take care.

Looks like your snow has arrived. Good luck. :D


In all seriousness though, be safe. That stuff gets slick.

JABDIP 12-26-2010 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 921400)
If I am junior in category 1.5x is preferred. If I am senior in category, gs is preferred. This presumes that all other things are not changed like reroute pay and ability to as unrestricted even if it puts u above 80.

Have to agree here. It seems as if the GS system lends iteslf to the senior guys and also those that live in base. 1.5 pay was pretty much across the board and was also somewhat availabel to those who comute. If you go over 80 you get 1.5 pay simple as that. Depends on where you are on the seniority list and where you live.;)

JABDIP 12-26-2010 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 921406)
As I recall, the "premium" trips paid 2X also. One of my many merger conspiracy theories.............the "p" that they placed next to the trip number was in green. Hummmmmmmm, you be the judge;):D

Ferd

PS That was also an auto email that you got from EZOpenboard, when a premium trip showed up in open time.

Another great service gone, EZ open board, sure miss that, hope he gets it going again.:D

caddis 12-26-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 921414)
alright let me ask this because i dont know, what incentive pay was there for resv pilots under nwa's systems. such as the gs over guarantee and payback systems?

if there wasnt one, would you prefer a hybrid system with 1.5 over 80 and resv gs's?

i'm think of super's situation on this one, 50 hours on gs so 120 hrs of pay and his pb days meant he was off dec 21-28...


FTB

Here is my issue with that. I was on my on call day starting around the storm in MSP for 13 days with a one day break. Good for me in that I YS trips and hit the ALV and am off the last 10 days of this month. Now I am over ALV and a GS is worthless to me.

I am home this week and willing to fly but I won't for RES pay rules. Why would I GS a trip and not get 2x pay. Why YS a trip and get paid 6:30 for a trip that pays a REG pilot 10:30.

So instead I will enjoy some time at home. Now it is possible I am mistaken and could be maximizing pay somehow but I don't know how.

JABDIP 12-26-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 921414)
alright let me ask this because i dont know, what incentive pay was there for resv pilots under nwa's systems. such as the gs over guarantee and payback systems?

if there wasnt one, would you prefer a hybrid system with 1.5 over 80 and resv gs's?

Reserve should have ALV min credit period!!!!!!!!!! Anything over 80 1.5!

the 70 hr deal really puzzles me How did we get that??????????????:eek:

tsquare 12-26-2010 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 921300)
Just flew with a -400 Capt who has 255+ hours for Dec :eek:

Did he buy?

tsquare 12-26-2010 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 921369)
Getting paid for 255 hours and actually flying 255 hours are two different things.

Yeah, imagine when they get $500/ hour.. they'll NEVER retire.

tsquare 12-26-2010 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 921386)
I disagree. Having been furloughed 5 times in my career, I still remember how awful it feels. As long as people aren't on furlough, guys should fly and work the system as much as THEY want. The company shouldn't hire until the operation is nearly ready to burst. That method is the best way to ensure that we hire just what we need, and avoid putting an airman through the sickening process of furlough.

Carl


Bid reserve in a holiday month and come back with that crap. And I'm not talking about Secretaries Day either.


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