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01-25-2011, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
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01-25-2011, 04:52 AM
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Cycle, it's Newk we're talking about, it's 80 kts "go for throttle up" which means max thrust.
01-25-2011, 04:53 AM
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01-25-2011, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The 320 does a ton of NYC flying too, but there is not talk of a base up there. It all comes down to the most efficient place for a crew to start and end a trip.
(A June 2011 bid or an after summer bid fits nicely with their commentary.)
As of late, there were approx. 18-24 daily NYC departures on the M88 and about 53 daily departures on the 320 fleet in NYC.
Base will come the CPO says, its just a matter of when. Its said there is concern with lot of training created from M88 guys living in BOS jumping ship to the 320 to get the layos at home on the shuttle back.
Add to it that the slot swap isn't done, and there will be even more M88 and 320 flying that will influence how to staff bases appropriately.
01-25-2011, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I have to disagree on that one. It has been spoken of repeatedly in the CPO office over the past year but it was more in the "longview", not until at least mid/late 2011.
(A June 2011 bid or an after summer bid fits nicely with their commentary.)
As of late, there were approx. 18-24 daily NYC departures on the M88 and about 53 daily departures on the 320 fleet in NYC.
Base will come the CPO says, its just a matter of when. Its said there is concern with lot of training created from M88 guys living in BOS jumping ship to the 320 to get the layos at home on the shuttle back.
Add to it that the slot swap isn't done, and there will be even more M88 and 320 flying that will influence how to staff bases appropriately.
(A June 2011 bid or an after summer bid fits nicely with their commentary.)
As of late, there were approx. 18-24 daily NYC departures on the M88 and about 53 daily departures on the 320 fleet in NYC.
Base will come the CPO says, its just a matter of when. Its said there is concern with lot of training created from M88 guys living in BOS jumping ship to the 320 to get the layos at home on the shuttle back.
Add to it that the slot swap isn't done, and there will be even more M88 and 320 flying that will influence how to staff bases appropriately.
I guess when they had newhires going into 73n and 7er, as things started to change there was alot of additional training that went on, bogging down the schoolhouse.
I knew guys that started in the ER, got displaced to the 73n, and then got displaced again to the M88 all the the space of 1-2 years.
That seems like alot of additional training expenses, I'd imagine the big AE that is looming on the horizon will more than likely bring the 320 to other bases, while I could see some of the M88 becoming a little more centralized.
Just a guess...
01-25-2011, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I looked at the rotations, and yeah there are a lot of ATL layo, some DH's and a lot of ATL flying. I would submit that there is more of that in these airplanes than the MD88 or 73N NYC.
I can't count frequencies though, thats too much. Just look at it this way, we have about 8200 flights. Not every day, not every week. Just 8200 flights numbers out of ATL.
Of those 8200, 28% belong to the 88. Almost 8% by the 737. And 3% by the A320. 34% are done by DCI. 757 has a chunk there too before you count in the international birds. It may be an accurate indication of the %'s when it comes to actual movements.
I was told in the summer of 2010 the goal was to have 50% of the takeoffs and landings in ATL by all airlines be by Delta MD88s. Gosh it could've been by you ACL or a LCA that told me that, don't recall.
01-25-2011, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Cutler needs to hire an image consultant.
I got two words that illustrate just how messed up this whole thing is:
Michael Vick
01-25-2011, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I have to disagree on that one. It has been spoken of repeatedly in the CPO office over the past year but it was more in the "longview", not until at least mid/late 2011.
(A June 2011 bid or an after summer bid fits nicely with their commentary.)
As of late, there were approx. 18-24 daily NYC departures on the M88 and about 53 daily departures on the 320 fleet in NYC.
Base will come the CPO says, its just a matter of when. Its said there is concern with lot of training created from M88 guys living in BOS jumping ship to the 320 to get the layos at home on the shuttle back.
Add to it that the slot swap isn't done, and there will be even more M88 and 320 flying that will influence how to staff bases appropriately.
(A June 2011 bid or an after summer bid fits nicely with their commentary.)
As of late, there were approx. 18-24 daily NYC departures on the M88 and about 53 daily departures on the 320 fleet in NYC.
Base will come the CPO says, its just a matter of when. Its said there is concern with lot of training created from M88 guys living in BOS jumping ship to the 320 to get the layos at home on the shuttle back.
Add to it that the slot swap isn't done, and there will be even more M88 and 320 flying that will influence how to staff bases appropriately.
I also suspect there is a talk of a DTW 73N base too.
01-25-2011, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Not all that great at reading the cards, but I think with this latest AE they look like they are trying to "make room" on the M88 category so that the new hires can directly to that.
I guess when they had newhires going into 73n and 7er, as things started to change there was alot of additional training that went on, bogging down the schoolhouse.
I knew guys that started in the ER, got displaced to the 73n, and then got displaced again to the M88 all the the space of 1-2 years.
That seems like alot of additional training expenses, I'd imagine the big AE that is looming on the horizon will more than likely bring the 320 to other bases, while I could see some of the M88 becoming a little more centralized.
Just a guess...
I guess when they had newhires going into 73n and 7er, as things started to change there was alot of additional training that went on, bogging down the schoolhouse.
I knew guys that started in the ER, got displaced to the 73n, and then got displaced again to the M88 all the the space of 1-2 years.
That seems like alot of additional training expenses, I'd imagine the big AE that is looming on the horizon will more than likely bring the 320 to other bases, while I could see some of the M88 becoming a little more centralized.
Just a guess...
01-25-2011, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I counted.
I can't count frequencies though, thats too much. Just look at it this way, we have about 8200 flights. Not every day, not every week. Just 8200 flights numbers out of ATL.
Of those 8200, 28% belong to the 88. Almost 8% by the 737. And 3% by the A320. 34% are done by DCI. 757 has a chunk there too before you count in the international birds. It may be an accurate indication of the %'s when it comes to actual movements.
I was told in the summer of 2010 the goal was to have 50% of the takeoffs and landings in ATL by all airlines be by Delta MD88s. Gosh it could've been by you ACL or a LCA that told me that, don't recall.
I can't count frequencies though, thats too much. Just look at it this way, we have about 8200 flights. Not every day, not every week. Just 8200 flights numbers out of ATL.
Of those 8200, 28% belong to the 88. Almost 8% by the 737. And 3% by the A320. 34% are done by DCI. 757 has a chunk there too before you count in the international birds. It may be an accurate indication of the %'s when it comes to actual movements.
I was told in the summer of 2010 the goal was to have 50% of the takeoffs and landings in ATL by all airlines be by Delta MD88s. Gosh it could've been by you ACL or a LCA that told me that, don't recall.
Shiz, I believe the slot swap outcome has something to do with future NYC base plans.
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