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Old 02-02-2011 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Because he doesn't believe we should. Period! He will grudgingly go along if we force it by overwhelming pressure from a majority of us.

Bottom line is that he doesn't see our current Scope as a problem.

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Isn't TO one who argued AGAINST the scope report card resolution at a C44 meeting last year?
Old 02-02-2011 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Isn't TO one who argued AGAINST the scope report card resolution at a C44 meeting last year?
Yes. He did come out vocally against the resolution as presented.

However, he is PRO-SCOPE.

I was there and his argument was that scope is already monitored monthly and the committee (Contract Compliance) in charge of compiling that information was already ensuring compliance, therefore the "extra report" was unnecessary. He also was speaking from the Neg. Chrmn. perspective in that they would likely incur lots of extra work to collate and present information that was already available.

I see both sides, we already have plenty of paper pushing going on, yet I also see the need to present pertinent information in a more easily-readable format.

but in the end I voted in favor of the resolution, and AG ended up using that effort to launch his LEC rep. campaign. It worked, and now LEC 44 puts out a scope report regularly now.
Old 02-02-2011 | 06:09 AM
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the year we merged, there were 108 DC-9's. Sorry, not even close to an offset, GMAFB.
Old 02-02-2011 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
It was apparently put out at the leadership meetings in ATL that we are buying more MD-90s, parking ALL of the DC-9s and growing 3-5% this year! The 90s will offset the 9s along with an aircraft acquisition. Not sure if the acquisition is in addition to the 90s or just the 90s.

With 3-5% growth (last year was 3.8%) we will need to hire. Just my 2 cents YMMV.
With fuel on the rise it wouldn't surprise me. I just don't know where the other aircraft would come from.
Old 02-02-2011 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
With fuel on the rise it wouldn't surprise me. I just don't know where the other aircraft would come from.
I just heard this same rumor (DC-9's being parked within 12 to 18 months) from another source. What will they replace this flying with? More contractually allowed RJ's?
Old 02-02-2011 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
I just heard this same rumor (DC-9's being parked within 12 to 18 months) from another source. What will they replace this flying with? More contractually allowed RJ's?
Dunno. Regardless, it's a contract our own pilot group ratified.
Old 02-02-2011 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
I just heard this same rumor (DC-9's being parked within 12 to 18 months) from another source. What will they replace this flying with? More contractually allowed RJ's?
Originally Posted by johnso29
Dunno. Regardless, it's a contract our own pilot group ratified.
Dunno, but they are adding a lot of 70 seat jets to the DCI portfolio over the last few weeks.

All of these seem to have shorter term agreements as well.... Six years on the RJET one.
Old 02-02-2011 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Dunno, but they are adding a lot of 70 seat jets to the DCI portfolio over the last few weeks.

All of these seem to have shorter term agreements as well.... Six years on the RJET one.
Which is about how long it will take us to take new NB deliveries. I don't know why anybody is surprised by this. Our contract allows for 255 large RJs. So they hit the cap ASAP(fuel is on the rise)then have the freedom to park the DC9's without having to reduce the number of large RJs thanks to the wonderful little nugget in our contract that says 'once the number of 76 seaters has been established, it will not be reduced'.
Old 02-02-2011 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
I just heard this same rumor (DC-9's being parked within 12 to 18 months) from another source. What will they replace this flying with? More contractually allowed RJ's?
REUTERS January 14, 2011
UPDATE 1-Delta may order up to 200 jets in fleet upgrade
* Plane makers asked to submit proposals
* Carrier seeks 100 to 200 orders, options for 200 more * Deliveries would begin 2013 (Adds Airbus order)
by Karen Jacobs
ATLANTA (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N) could place firm orders for as many as 200 airplanes as it looks to replace aging aircraft, the carrier said on Thursday.
Delta said in a message on its internal employee website that it had sent proposal requests last month to several major plane makers.
The company said that it had asked for proposals to deliver 100 to 200 firm aircraft, with an option for 200 more, starting in early 2013. It said possible orders could include large, medium and small single-aisle planes to be used on U.S. routes.
Narrowbody planes are the backbone of most airline fleets and typically sell for around $80 million at list prices.
Delta said new jets could eventually replace planes such as the Airbus (EAD.PA) A320, Boeing (BA.N) 757-200 and the DC9-50, a plane made by McDonnell Douglas, which merged with Boeing in the late 1990s.
"We're now starting to plan for the long term, to ensure that we continue to maintain a flexible, cost-efficient fleet ... replace retiring airplanes and provide for domestic mainline growth," Nat Pieper, Delta vice president for fleet strategy and transactions, said in the message.


There was a similar announcement about mainline replacements on DeltaNet around the same time.
Old 02-02-2011 | 07:44 AM
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Here's the DeltaNet announcement:


Delta begins long-term planning for domestic aircraft fleet
January 13, 2011


Delta is beginning to plan for the future of its domestic mainline fleet and is accepting requests for proposals or RFPs to replace more than 200 narrowbody aircraft to provide long-term mainline domestic growth.

Late December, Delta sent a RFP to several major aircraft manufacturers for the eventual replacement of aircraft such as the Airbus A320, the DC9-50 and the Boeing 757-200, and to provide for long-term mainline domestic growth.

The proposal marks the next phase of Delta’s mainline fleet strategy, as older domestic mainline aircraft begin to approach retirement age, smaller regional jets and turboprop are phased out and the airline works to grow its domestic business.

During the past year, Delta has focused on combining the Delta and former Northwest fleets and investing in existing aircraft, with improvements including WiFi on all two-class domestic aircraft, interior upgrades and the installation of additional first class seats. Delta also has made some strategic aircraft acquisitions, including new and used aircraft, supplementing DC-9s and other aircraft that have retired from service.

Since 2007, Delta has invested in 60 mainline aircraft, including 10 Boeing 777-200LRs, 12 Boeing 737-700/800s, five used Boeing 757-200s and 33 used MD-90s.

At the same time, the airline has removed more than 70 50-seat regional jets and 25 Saab 340 turboprops from the fleet.

“Our strategy has worked well, with the improvements to our existing aircraft and the cost-efficient airplanes we’ve added to the domestic fleet,” said Nat Pieper, v.p.-Fleet Strategy and Transactions. “We’re now starting to plan for the long term, to ensure that we continue to maintain a flexible, cost-efficient fleet that meets our customers’ needs in the years to come, replace retiring airplanes and provide for domestic mainline growth.”

The RFP asks for proposals to deliver 100 to 200 firm aircraft, with an option for 200 more, starting in early 2013. It asks the manufacturers to consider large, medium and small narrowbody planes to be operated by Delta as mainline aircraft.

Nat said that Delta also continues to look for opportunities to purchase used aircraft.

He added that the request for proposals is a first step, and no decisions have been made regarding future aircraft purchases.

“We’ll evaluate all of our options,” he said.
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