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acl65pilot 02-02-2011 12:30 PM

The hard limit is 255 70+ seat jets with the limit on 76 seat jets being not one over the limit of 153 as agreed to in the grievance settlement 09-01 until the mainline fleet total hull number passes 767. We are about 39 hulls away from that.

Johnso, simple CH11. Why it was not changed in the JPWA? No idea.

DAL 88 Driver 02-02-2011 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 940817)
Also, whoever negotiated and sold us on the idea that it was ok to give management RJs for each new plane, but NOT lose large RJs for every mainline plane lost, should be pummeled.

Wasn't TO (our new MEC Chairman) head of the negotiating committee during this time? I'm just sayin'...

formerdal 02-02-2011 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 940847)
The hard limit is 255 70+ seat jets with the limit on 76 seat jets being not one over the limit of 153 as agreed to in the grievance settlement 09-01 until the mainline fleet total hull number passes 767. We are about 27 hulls away from that.

Johnso, simple CH11. Why it was not changed in the JPWA? No idea.

Per an email yesterday from AG. The current fleet size is 728. The company has to add 39 mainline airframes before they may add any additional 76 seaters, however with the additional RJ's recently announced the comapany may still add another 20 before reaching the 255 limit.

Ferd149 02-02-2011 12:44 PM

Nevermind...........found it in iCrew, and I'm back to the grind.

scambo1 02-02-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by formerdal (Post 940851)
Per an email yesterday from AG. The current fleet size is 728. The company has to add 39 mainline airframes before they may add any additional 76 seaters, however with the additional RJ's recently announced the comapany may still add another 20 before reaching the 255 limit.


I'm not a black helo guy really, but if we add in all the md-90's what does that bring us to at the mainline?

What does that allow as far as 76 seat jets?

acl65pilot 02-02-2011 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by formerdal (Post 940851)
Per an email yesterday from AG. The current fleet size is 728. The company has to add 39 mainline airframes before they may add any additional 76 seaters, however with the additional RJ's recently announced the comapany may still add another 20 before reaching the 255 limit.


His numbers are more current than mine. Even more of a point.

Yes, looking at the most recent data we are up two airframes from Oct 10, 2010 for a total of 728 total airframes.

Reroute 02-02-2011 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 940857)
I'm not a black helo guy really, but if we add in all the md-90's what does that bring us to at the mainline?

What does that allow as far as 76 seat jets?

Think of it this way, if they fill up on 70-seat jets, it limits the number of 76 seat jets they can add before they hit 255.

With a projected 70/76 seat fleet of 235 aircraft (70 70-seat+12 70-seat on order (4 SKW, 8 RJET)+153 76-seat) the most they could add would be 20. Not good, but not Armageddon either, considering our mainline fleet would have to be above ~774 jets (46 more than today) to get there.

Also, the increase in MD-90s is not all growth, it will be off set by the retirement of DC-9s and older MD-88s.

acl65pilot 02-02-2011 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 940854)
Nevermind...........found it in iCrew, and I'm back to the grind.

Ferd;
It is that word at the bottom of the I-Crew log in screen that is in all caps. :eek:

DAL 88 Driver 02-02-2011 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 940862)
Think of it this way, if they fill up on 70-seat jets, it limits the number of 76 seat jets they can add before they hit 255.

With a projected 70/76 seat fleet of 235 aircraft (70 70-seat+12 70-seat on order (4 SKW, 8 RJET)+153 76-seat) the most they could add would be 20. Not good, but not Armageddon either, considering our mainline fleet would have to be above ~774 jets (46 more than today) to get there.

Also, the increase in MD-90s is not all growth, it will be off set by the retirement of DC-9s and older MD-88s.

So bottom line, yet again more of our flying is being effectively transferred to DCI?

acl65pilot 02-02-2011 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 940870)
So bottom line, yet again more of our flying is being effectively transferred to DCI?

Nothing more than we have already agreed it in the JPWA, LOA19 or any other agreement since CH11.

This is not a new scope sale, the company is just exercising its rights under the PWA.


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